“R” Catholics Idolatars? by Patrick Miron

R”   Catholics  Idolaters?

by Pat Miron

I’m a Catholic

 There are a great many charges leveled against the Catholic Church on a all to frequent basis by non-Catholic – Christians and others as well. Often out of ignorance; not knowing the logic and foundation for what we hold to be the singular truth. It’s what they have been told, so it’s what they believe. Among the more common charges is that we Catholics are “idolaters,” and the question before us is it true? After all we do “pray to Mary, the Mother of God,” and to Angels and Saints. So it would seem that their at least might be some grounds to support these charges. And there is plenty of evidence of statues, stained-glass windows, prayer-cards, religious art that seems to add credence to the charge.

 The answer rest is in the terminology used. In the charges leveled is the word “Worship,” As in Catholics “Worship Mary.” This is an incorrect understanding of Catholic Practice. Catholics; like non-Catholic-Christians hold to the fact that “Worship” is reserver3ed to God alone. So then; what is it that Catholics do, if it’s not “Worship?”

 In the Book of Exodus, chapter Twenty we read this admonition: this command from God. Exodus 20: And God spoke all these words, saying, “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. “You shall have no other gods before me.” “You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth”

 Well that certainly seems clear enough? But is it REALLY? … The most basic, inviolable, indeed; Infallible rule for understanding the Bible correctly [as God Himself intends], is that Never-Ever can one part of the Bible contradict another portion. Where this even the slightest possibility, the Bible would be worthless as a tool for teaching or learning ones Faith. When ever this appears to take place we can be certain that it is we; not the bible that is in error.

 So my friends lets turn to the book of Numbers; the same God giving direction to the same Moses.Num.21:8 -9 “And the LORD said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and every one who is bitten, when he sees it, shall live.” So Moses made a bronze serpent, and set it on a pole; and if aserpent bit any man, he would look at the bronze serpent and live. And here is another example of God’s Command to Moses: from the Book of Exodus no-less. Exod.25: 18-22 “And you shall make two cherubim [ANGELS] of gold; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end; of one piece with the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be. There I will meet with you, and from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubim that are upon the ark of the testimony, I will speak with you of all that I will give you in commandment for the people of Israel. … Exod.26: 1“Moreover you shall make the tabernacle with ten curtains of fine twined linen and blue and purple and scarlet stuff; with cherubim skillfully worked shall you make them.”

 So what’s the deal here, we have God directing; actually commanding Moses to “MAKE and display IDOLS” to be used as God commands?

 The explanation is in the CORRECT understanding of the term “Idols”. Go back and re-look at Exodus 20 and take note of the fact that God specifies “FALSE gods“; not just any images. What God prohibits is anything that is in competition to His God-Head. Images that lead one [or at least that is their intended purpose], are NOT prohibited because they are a means to a building a closer unity with God. It is the purpose of the image that determines if in fact it is an IDOL, or something that reminds us of heavenly things. Certainly Mary, the Saints, Angels all qualify as “holy things” that ought can, and ought to lead us in the direction of God; not towards any “false competing” gods. So statues, art, images of Saints and Mary are quite “OK” with God, as a means of gaining possible closer union with Him.

 This discussion would be incomplete without an explanation of WHY we do what we do. To try to make the issue clear we will use the ”HAILMARY” [used in the Rosary] prayer, which is by far the most used prayer next to the LORDS PAYER, as our example of what we Catholics actually do, and why we do it.

 “Hail Mary,

Full of Grace

The Lord is with thee

Blessed are you among all women

And Blessed in the fruit of your womb: Jesus

Holy Mary

Mother of God

Pray for us sinners

Now and at the hour of our death

Amen” [I BELIEVE!]

 Luke Chapter One 26 And in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God into a city of Galilee, called Nazareth 27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary. 28 And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women 29 Who having heard, was troubled at his saying, and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be. 30 And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God. 31 Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever 33 And of his kingdom there shall be no end.

34 And Mary said to the angel: How shall this be done, because I know not man?

35 And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

 The final petition: “ Pray for us sinners, Now and at the hour of our death” is the reason Catholics pray to [actually THROUGH them] Mary and the Saints Our prayers ARE DIRECTED to God; BUT with the intercession, the HELP of Mary and the Saints who ADD their own prayers on-top of ours making them far more effective, and pleasing to God.

 We call them “Intercessory Prayers.” Luke.18: 1“And he [Jesus] told them a parable, to the effect that they ought always to pray and not lose heart. …Eph.6: 18“Pray at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints,”

 As one can see, from reading the New Testament, Jesus Himself prayed often as did the Apostles. Prayer is lifting out minds and heats to God. So the fact that Catholics use reminders of those who have both “passed before us“; and PASSED the necessary steps required for ones salvations is a form of “VENERATION“, NOT “Worship,” which is RIGHTLY reserve red to God alone.

 Therefore the charge against Catholics as Idolaters is blatantly FALSE, and unmerited.

 God Bless you,

Pa

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REPOSTED: “In Defence of the Family” by Ingnitum today

In Defense of the Family: The Destruction of Divorce

Posted: 24 Apr 2014 10:09 AM PDT

Divorce is an unnatural occurrence.

At least, it should be.

Unfortunately, we don’t all view marriage through the lens of the Church. We don’t all see marriage as an unbreakable commitment, a Sacrament, or a holy union created by God.

Instead, in these modern times, many of us see it as a contract, an agreement, or a legal partnership — and divorce is viewed as a safety clause in case things just get too difficult.  Even Christians, when “defending” marriage, tend to push the issue aside and focus all their attention on same-sex marriage.

But it shouldn’t be like that. One of the things that drew me to the Roman Catholic Church was its focus on family as the centerpiece to society.  I love the importance, even the burden, the Church rests on the shoulders of a mother and father, and I especially love the theological defenses of the family.

So please, Catholics and Protestant Christians alike, and especially parents, understand this: divorce is the greatest threat to the structure of the family in our society. It destroys a bond that God himself crafted, but worst of all is the emotional, spiritual, and mental affect it has on your children.

I know this because four years ago I watched the family I’d known my entire life come crashing down around me.

Growing up, if anyone had asked me if I thought I’d ever find myself part of a broken family, I would have very confidently said “no,” and I would have believed it with every bit of my being.

Yet, at the age of 21, I sat on the couch with my sister, and heard words that should have never been spoken: “We’re getting a divorce.”

That broke something inside of me, something that can’t be repaired, something that keeps that moment fresh on my mind and makes me relive it every. single. day.

I was completely and utterly devastated.

The family that I knew was gone.

My family.

It’s still gone.

People say time heals all wounds, but not this one. This one remains open and fresh and it can’t be healed because it’s an unnatural wound.

In the time that has passed, I, myself, got married, started my own family and came into the Catholic Church. While the pain remains, through God’s grace, I have learned how to deal with it.

I’ve also had plenty of time to pray and think carefully about what I want to say to other parents when it comes to divorce.

As Christians, the fact that God blatantly says, “Do not get a divorce” should be enough: Therefore, what God has joined together, no human being must separate. Mt 19:6

However, many will find a way to tiptoe around that command and justify a divorce on whatever grounds. So to all those married with children: if your life isn’t in immediate physical danger — stay together.

Stay together for the sake of the kids.

Those children give you a reason to stay together.  Those children give you a reason to work it out. Don’t force them to watch their family crumble.  That is a pain in which no descriptive words can do justice.

God didn’t create us with the ability to love and make life so that our children could split their time between two homes. That’s not natural. It’s not right.

Marriage isn’t easy, it isn’t supposed to be. But when you stood on that altar, you made a promise, not just to your spouse, but to God. You made a promise to protect the bond that He created. You acknowledged and accepted God’s place in your marriage.

So, if your marriage gets to the point to where a divorce seems like the only option, then perhaps it’s time to re-evaluate where God is in your relationship.

Pope John Paul II once said, “Spouses are therefore the permanent reminder to the Church of what happened on the Cross; they are for one another and for the children witnesses to the salvation in which the sacrament makes them sharers.”

Your marriage is more than just an expression of love and commitment to your children. It is a witness to the saving grace of Christ. Together, you and your spouse bring the reality of God’s love and salvation into your family.

When my parents divorced, I immediately began to doubt everything I’d ever believed about love, the family, and even God.  A divorce doesn’t just affect your children emotionally; it can shake the very foundation of their spirituality. That thought should be devastating to any parent.

And when I say “stay together,” that doesn’t mean faking it, letting your marriage die, or allowing your house to become a war zone, because that can be just as damaging.

You and your spouse once loved each other.  Your children were created out of that love.

Let that be your motivation, and in the process, you will show your friends, your family, and especially your children, what it means to keep a promise.

The post In Defense of the Family: The Destruction of Divorce appeared first onIgnitumToday.

“I DON’t Believe catholics on Mary [and a few other things] by Pat Miron

I just have a hard time believing/accepting the various Marian beliefs.

 Allow me, to explain WHY this is taking place. It’s a combination of several active factors:

  1. Because Morally, Theologically and even plain old Logic ought to permit one to comprehend what God HAS MADE incomprehensible to ALL faiths that oppose His constant OT and NT teaching of One True God; with Only One set of TRUE Faith beliefs and practices and following His Own IT tradition of Only One Chosen People; Christ Choose and factually [biblically and historically provable] One True Church.
  2. Nowhere in the Bible which many Protestants claim as the exclusive source of religious truth can ANY Protestant [or anyone else for that matter] provide evidence that either Yahweh or Christ ever, even one time, approved of any-competing faith beliefs systems. And yet under the “non-Catholic-Christian” banner there are many thousands of them. All knowingly or not, choosing to believe that they know more, or know better than Christ, and the One Church He founded, guides and protects, [READ John 17:13-22], carefully and prayerfully.
  3. Neither can it be shown, much less, proven with evidence, that the RCC is NOT the One True Church, or somehow “lost this” calling and position. Mt. 16: 18-19“And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; andupon this rock I will build my church,[SINGULAR] and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give to thee  [ALL OF] the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven. .. Mt. 28: 16-20“And the eleven disciples went into Galilee, unto the mountain where Jesus had appointed them.  And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. Going therefore, teach ye all nations; [NO-ONE else; no other faith has been given this mandate FROM GOD!] baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have [TAUGHT & ] commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.”
  4. One MUST understand that ALL faith-belief systems outside of the CC ARE factually opposing Gods clearly stated Divine Will. AND THE necessarily PENALTY IMPOSED and chosen BY GOD, who MUST be Fair and Just, IS TO BLOCK THEIR ABILITY TO RIGHTLY UNDERSTAND UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THEY TURN BACK TO GOD AND SINCERELY SEEK HIS DIVINE ASSISTANCE.

 Matthew 11:15 “He that hath ears to hear, let him hear”

  Matthew 24:11 ”And many false prophets shall rise, and shall seduce many.”

 Matthew 13:15 “For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears they have been dull of hearing, and their eyes they have shut: lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them”

 Matthew 7:15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves”

 Matthew 18:6 “But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones [This means any uninformed, or not rightly trained; yet God seeking] that believe in me, [Means believe they ARE seeking God’s truth] it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea.”

Luke.5:3” I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”

To be clear here, any and ALL who oppose God’s Divine and Perfect Will, fit the definition of a biblical “false prophet.The first step to true repentance is recognizing that you have been duped.

 Each of these is worthy of an in-depth reply; however I fear if I DO that, it’ll be too long and you may lose interest. So I’m going to try my version of brief, and let you lead me from that point.

 Let’s back up a step or two and ask a rhetorical question>

Q: WHY do hold these specific believes?

A: Because that is the way you have been trained and conditioned.

  So here’s a review of some Mary Basics & the Catholic Church

  1. The CC does NOT mandate praying to Mary or any of the Saints.
  2. That IS a personal piety option
  3. We ARE obligated to accept and to venerate and reverence Her as GOD CHOICE [out of literally BILLIONS of options] to be His Mother in a REAL sense. Lk.1: 26-36
  4. We are to accept in Faith the Dogmatic proclamation’s the Church HAS made about Mary: Virgin Birth; Assumption into heaven; Sinless from Her Conception.
  5. The difficulty it seems to me in regards to Mary; is Protestants have an indoctrinated [almost hatred’ ] of Her. Yet such a position ignores Her merits and value to God. [1] Because of the hang-up caused by a lack of understanding and plain logic, of Just How MUCH Mary freely choose to give and the degree of Suffering She endured is say “I  AM the handmaiden of the Lord: DO WITH ME AS YOU SAY” For example: Mary could have been according to Jewish Laws; STONED to death for becoming pregnant while yet unmarried.
  6. Take some time [a few moments] to read this site: http://www.sevensorrows.com/explanation.htmhttp://www.sevensorrows.com/explanation.htm
  7. It is also a huge step to recognize that what others choose to teach about the RCC is a lie. EVEN IF THEY ARE UNAWARE of it. The Lie that Catholics Worship Mary is the basis for all of your doubts and misconception, and its rooted in the absolute necessity to disprove Catholicism in-order to create an opportunity to impose their own man-made faith beliefs.

 Luke 1:38: “And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done to me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her”.

 Luke 1:48: “Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed

 Like Mediatrix of All Graces, how some saints say without devotion to Mary one cannot be saved, how God chooses to grant graces mostly through Mary, etc

 As I previously stated; prayers and Marian devotions [prayers and novenas] are NOT mandated by the CC. They Are however extremely PRUDENT.

 John 19: 25-28 “Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, his mother,and his mother’ s sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen. When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, [John]  he saith to his mother: Woman, behold thy son. After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own. Afterwards, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, said: I thirst.”

Here’s what this MEANS: Christ when dying for US, at the last moments of His Live; Christ Desired to DO MORE FOR US and fulfills this desire by sharing His Mother with all humanity. So He literally GIVES His Mother, [whom he called “WOMEN; the generic name” to John [whom he called his disciple; AGAIN the generic name]; as here John represents ALL of US in this dialog. WHY? Because Christ our ALL-KNOWING God Knew what lie honors and esteem lie in store for Her.

  1. Here from the Catholic Catechism:

266 “Now this is the Catholic faith: We worship one Godin the Trinity and the Trinity in unity, without either confusing the persons or dividing the substance; for the person of the Father is one, the Son’s is another, the Holy Spirit’s another; but the Godhead of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is one, their glory equal, their majesty coeternal” (Athanasian Creed: DS 75; ND 16)”

 2135 You shall worship the Lord your God” (Mt 4:10). Adoring God, praying to him, offering him the worship that belongs to him, fulfilling the promises and vows made to him are acts of the virtue of religion which fall under obedience to the first commandment”.

 971 All generations will call me blessed“:[Luke 1: 48]  “The Church’s devotion to the Blessed Virgin is intrinsic to Christian worship.” [Here “worship” means “prayer Life]  The Church rightly honors “the Blessed Virgin with special devotion. From the most ancient times the Blessed Virgin has been honored with the title of ‘Mother of God,’ to whose protection the faithful fly in all their dangers and needs. . . . This very special devotion. . . differs essentially from the adoration which is given to the incarnate Word and equally to the Father and the Holy Spirit, and greatly fosters this adoration.” The liturgical feasts dedicated to the Mother of God and Marian prayer, such as the rosary, an “epitome of the whole Gospel,” express this devotion to the Virgin Mary

 2097 “To adore God is to acknowledge, in respect and absolute submission, the “nothingness of the creature” who would not exist but for God. To adore God is to praise and exalt him and to humble oneself, as Mary did in the Magnificat, confessing with gratitude that he has done great things and holy is his name. The worship of the one God sets man free from turning in on himself, from the slavery of sin and the idolatry of the world.”

 Nowhere, not one time does the catechism teach that we Catholics ARE to “worship Mary”.

 Then what about “give us this day our daily bread”?  Is it “give to Mary so she can give us the bread?”

 NO! Mary’s only Role in the Most Holy Eucharist was to give to the CC, Her Son, whose Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity we DO RECEIVE in Catholic holy Communion.

 What about Protestants who do not have devotion to Mary?  What about the missionaries who died for their faith?

 I wish to address ALL of your concerns, but don’t understand the question as worded. Yes there are many Protestants who God has given the Grace of right Wisdom and Understanding concerning Mary; who too, at Christ bequest, is the MOTHER of ALL humanity, and our personal embracery between us and God.

 Is the “essential?”; not in the sense of being absolutely necessary; but “yes: in the sense that one is foolish to DENY what Christ obviously intended for man’s spiritual benefit.

John 19: 25-18; above

 I just don’t feel comfortable believing that we’re too sinful, so it’s better to go through Mary.

 I’m unsure where this idea came from. Frankly, it’s a novel concept, and new to mePeople for almost 2,000 years have chosen to Go to Mary as the Mother of God; because it BENEFITS them to do so. Not out of an obligation, but for personal GAIN.

 http://en.lourdes-france.org/deepen/cures-and-miracles CHECK this out, and this is just from Lourdes in France. There are other places also. This is what we mean when we say Protestants simply do not reverence Mary as the MOTHER of GOD, sufficiently. Additionally to the physical-miracles; are the uncounted Spiritual Miracles. We choose to pray to Mary as the Intercessor of choice, par-excellence; because no-one has a closer bond and better access to God; HER SON! What Mary and the Saints DO for us when we pray THROUGH them [ALL prayers are aimed in the end at God], is ADD their own prayers on-top and in ADDITION to our own, and then personally present them to God on our behalf. By all measurements the most frequently offered prayer to Mary is ‘THE HAIL MARY” which is clearly Biblical in origin.

  Hail Mary, [Lk. 1:28]

Full of Grace [Lk. 1:28]

The Lord is with thee [Lk 1:27]

Blessed are you among all women [Lk 1:42]

And Blessed in the fruit of your womb: Jesus [Lk. 1;42]

Holy Mary [Lk.1: 28]

Mother of God Lk.1:35

Pray for us sinners [our Catholic petition]

Now and at the hour of our death

Amen” [I BELIEVE!]

 Now I’m just angry, and I don’t feel like praying anymore.  I tried.  But clearly, God is not granting me the grace to believe.  And on top of that, I’m an exceedingly wicked sinner.

 Here’s what we ALL need to understand about prayer. It’s a REQUEST, not magic!  God has committed to answer all Prayers that ARE for our Benefit. Ist Spiritually, than physically [when it will BE for our Spiritual benefit], and then other things. BUT HE WILL NOT SAY “YES” TO EVERY PRAYER. God can also say “NO!” and “NOT NOW!” God is a loving father who KNOWS what is best for us, and knows the intent of our hearts.

 Prayer ALSO is a means God uses to check and monitor the LEVEL of our love and commitment to Him. Saint Monica; the mother of saint Augustine prayed for him for 17 YEARS before he converted to Catholicism. He fathered a child out of wedlock, and lived a depraved life for many years. He’s now a Doctor of the RCC, and a Saint.

 It is wrong to try to attempt to tell God what HE MUST do, and, or, when and how HE MUST do it! Pray MUCH and believe! But allow God to BE God!

 It’s so easy for other people.  

 Not necessarily true. It surely was NOT in my earlier life! And I know MANY who endured more and longer them I had too. Is it easier for some? SURE. But usually it’s because they are MORE humble, more repentant, more sincere. We ARE to have an active role in these happenings.

 But all I see is giving to Mary so much honor and praise at the expense of giving praise and glory to God.  The explanation I read is, If you give Mary honor, you give God glory.

 This MY FRIEND is exactly what I meant earlier about Protestant brain-washing. Anything and EVERYTHING we do to / THROUGH Mary HONORS Her Son: God! Mary is NOT competition to God as you have been taught RATHER She is the one Human being who comes closest to being a mirror image of Her Son. Mary KNOWS this, God Knows this and the RCC Knows this. She is but a God-given means to the end; the end being Eternal salvation. Not the only way to get their; BUT without doubt, one of the very BEST ways to do so. That’s WHY it is NOT mandated. Love freely given can be perfected. Forced love can never attain that goal. Matthew 5:48Be you therefore perfectas also your heavenly Father is perfect.”

 But in the end, isn’t God the One Who is infinite and almighty?

YES! In the Beginning, the Middle, and the End! Always, every-time and everywhere.

 This seems like a good place to explain Mary’s Role; GIVEN TO HER BY A GOOD AND PERFECT GOD [once again we see the human tendency to think that mere mortal men can or Do know MORE, and or Do know Better than God Himself. How silly is that?

 Mary is NOT the Source of Grace

God is

Mary does NOT decide who is offered which type or how much grace

God DOES

What Mary Does is accept the OFFER of Grace from Her Son: who is God

Than as God’s Intercessor; passes then on to us.

And I suspect; prays that we will be wise enough, humble enough to accept them.

 And the Rosary…so many Hail Mary’s…. WHICH ARE BIBLICALLY FOUNDED! Go back up and READ slowly the WORDS of it. The Bible is INSPIRED BY GOD; so God intended this to be included. 2nd. Tim. 3:16

 Mary must hate me. [NOT A CAHANCE!]

 This is tiring, and what’s coming back to my mind is the belief that the Catholic Church has human-inspired practices.

 Here’s a site worth your time to check out about the Early Church and Mary

 http://www.nairaland.com/1381559/most-blessed-virgin-mary-teachings

I’m open to discuss ANY of your issues and concerns. BUT I do expect you to be specific. I can’t read your mind MY FRIEND. I can’t explain, or at least attempt too, unless you share what it is you’re talking about. We’ve addressed Mary; what else is bothering you?

 Know that you’re in my thought and prayers MY FRIEND!

 God Bless you,

 Patrick

I was recently asked Cf. “Them or Us” by Pareick Miron

A reply with evidence:

 

[QUOTE]Mshipmate

Christian FORUM: Why is the Bible Gods Word

 Who were God’s ppl back when Hosea wrote this verse? They were the Hebrews/Israelites. What was their sin? They forgot God’s laws and as a result they lost the knowledge of their Creator. What happens when ppl do have knowledge of their Creator? They have life; eternal life.[/QUOTE] 

 Thanks for your reply.

 I must confess that at 69 years young, I have not the faintest idea what “ppl” means. HUGE SMILE HERE. But in its context, I’ll assume it has to do with who God’s chosen people were [and are.]

 I’d like to begin our conversation with a bible quote and a definition, to get us off on a firm and solid footing.

 Malachi 3:6 “For I am the Lord, and I change not

 James 1:17 “Every best gift, and every perfect gift, is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of alteration”

 Have you my friend ever come across the “One Infallible rule for right Understanding of the Bible?” Please permit me to share it here. [caps for emphasis NOT shouting]

 “Never-ever

Can, May or DOES

One culled verse, passage or teaching

Have the power and authority

To:

Make void, invalidate or override

Another

Verse, passage or teaching

 WERE THIS EVEN THE SLIGHEST POSSIBILITY [ITS NOT!] IT WOULD RENDER THE ENTIRE BIBLE AS WORTHLESS AND USELESS TO TEACH OR SHARE ONES FAITH.

[QUOTE]Who are God’s ppl today? See this is where the claim of the RCC is that they alone are the true church, [[1] TRUE] they alone are saved, [2] FALSE] and that their “Church” is the only one started when Peter made his confession. And their claim this makes Peter the first pope and so on and so on, [TRUE] creates a big problem. [3]VERY TRUE] Why is it a problem? [1]Because when Christ said I will built, the word build has the meaning of ‘building up’ or “adding to;” not starting something ‘new.’ [4] And So the problem is also the RCC is leaving out all the righteous ppl from the OT. [4][WRONG, more than FALSE] 

 I have numbered them so that each can be discussed individually; and I’m going to take a minimalist approach to try to keep this as brief as possible. But please understand, I am willing to enter an in-depth discussion, if you choose to do so.

 [1] I posted above a Teaching from both the Old and the New Testament that makes clear one of God’s infallible attributes. God BECAUSE He IS God, can’t change who and what He IS. He can change His mind; BUT not His Judgments. What is right is always RIGHT.

 So in summary; God of the Old Testament [Yahweh] is the same identical God as God [Christ] in the New Testament. We therefore ought not be surprised to discover that what Saint Augustine had to say about the bible, has great relevance to our current topic.

 {QUOTE]The New Testament is hidden in the Old Testament; and the Old Testament is revealed in the New Testament.”[/QUOTE]

 So the first point I’d like to share is the “number ONE,” and its significance to our first point. “ppl” [Chosen people].

 Lev. 26: 12-15 “I will walk among you, and will be your God, and you shall be my people.  I am the Lord your God: who have brought you out of the land of the Egyptians, that you should not serve them, and who have broken the chains of your necks, that you might go upright.  But if you will not hear me, nor do all my commandments,  If you despise my laws, and contemn my judgments so as not to do those things which are appointed by me, and to make void my covenant

 While there is numerous evidence of God’s free choice of Just ONE GOD; Just One set of Faith beliefs [termed Commandments, laws, judgments and precepts… Gen. 26: 5] and as you seem to indicate; Just ONE chosen people; the above passage serves as verification of these Godly choices.

 So one ought not be surprised that Christ followed His Own OT tradition; and followed suit with ONLY One God, One set of faith believes and Only One Church.

 It is historical fact that today’s RCC was the ONLY “church” to exist anywhere in the entire world for the first THOUSAND years of Christian existence [the Great Easter Schism around 1054 AD].

 Add to this fact anther FACT, that exegetes [bible experts] agree that the bible was completely authored by the end of the First Century or very early Second Century; which supports  the following statements as provable FACTS.

  1. Christ Himself coined the term “”MY” church [Singular]” [Mt. 16:15-19] to signify that he WAS founding a new religion [Just One]; with a NEW [ONE] set of faith beliefs, and under One God [Triune], and under a new single structure of authority.

 Mt. 16: 18-19 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon [You Peter]this rock I will build my church, [Singular& implies just One set of faith-beliefs]and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.  And I will give to thee [ALL OF] the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven. [As a FYI: the terms to “bind” and “to loose” here have so highly significant meanings to our current topic of “ONLY-ONE.”The First meaning was at that timeand place a passing of God’s Own authority[if in doubt please read Mt. 10: 1-8; John 17: 18 & John 20:21] to Peter and through Peter to the other apostles was Christ intent. I have an extensive document on the meaning of the Key’s I can share if you’d care to read it.

 Major cites at that time and area were, as was and IS, Jerusalem, “walled in” with actual gates, doors, locks and keys. Prior to Rome’s capture, these cites normally had individual kings. These kings would commonly appoint a “Prime Minister” who was empowered to RUN the city on a day to day basis, the power to make and void laws, and was answerable ONLY and directly to that king, andtThus freeing up the king to do “king stuff.” This PM actually did have ALL the KEYS to the “Kingdom.”This was such a common occurrence that the position and decisions of the PM were enforceable in Jewish Courts of Law. And this is the Precise role that Christ [THE KING] envisioned and was appointing Peter [The Prime Minister]. This was such a common understanding that nowhere in the bible or in secular history do we find a debate or a challenge to what Christ Himself had Ordained, meant and Decreed from the other apostles.

 John 10:16“And other sheep I have, that are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd”

 Eph. 2:19-20 “So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone,  in whom the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord; in whom you also are built into it for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.”

 [Douay Bible which predates the King James by about 50 YEARS] Acts 20:28 Take heed to yourselves, and to the whole flock, wherein the Holy Ghost hath placed you bishops, to rule the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood”

 1st. Tim. 4:14-16 “Neglect not the grace that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with imposition of the hands of the priesthood.  Meditate upon these things, be wholly in these things: that thy profiting may be manifest to all Take heed to thyself and to doctrine: be earnest in them. For in doing this thou shall both save thyself and them that hear thee.”

  Eph. 4: 1-7 “I therefore, a prisoner in the Lord, beseech you that you walk worthy of the [ONE] vocation in which you are called, with all humility and mildness, with patience, supporting one another in charity. Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. One body [MEANS ONLY ONE CHURCH] and one Spirit; as you are called in one hope of your calling. One Lord, one faith,[ONLY ONE SET OF FAITH BELIEFS FOLLOWING OT tradition] one baptism. One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in us all. But to every one of us is given grace, according to the measure of the giving of Christ [Which explains why some have a difficult time understanding and therefore accepting these truths.]

  1. Next we will point out that the bible itself was “birthed” by the Catholic Church. It was the very early[Catholic]church Fathers who choose the OT books to be included, and it was men who would later [but not much later] be known as Catholics who AUTHORED the entire New Testament, being Inspired by God to do so. 2nd. Tim. 3:16-17.

 At First Christ Newly Founded religion was termed “The Way”, Here’s Haydock’s Commentary on this passage: Ver. 14. The Father, and my God. In the Greek, the Lord of our fathers. (Witham) — According to the way. The Protestant version has sect for way; but in this, as well as in many other points, the original is not attended to, in which we read kata ten odon, as in our translation”; then in in Acts 11:26 “and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church,[Singular] and taught a large company of people; and in Antioch the disciples were for the first time called Christian” And not much later the term “catholic” was first introduced and applied.

 Its original meaning of “general” or “universal” has taken on a variety of applications in the course of Christian history. First used by St. Ignatius of Antioch (A.D. 35-107) (Letter to the Smyrneans, 8, 2), it is now mainly used in five recognized senses: 1. the Catholic Church as distinct from Christian ecclesiastical bodies that do not recognize the papal primacy; 2. the Catholic faith as the belief of the universal body of the faithful, namely that which is believed “everywhere, always, and by all” (Vincentian Canon); 3. orthodoxy as distinguished from what is heretical or schismatical; 4. the undivided Church before the Eastern Schism of 1054; thereafter the Eastern Church has called itself orthodox, in contrast with those Christian bodies which did not accept the definitions of Ephesus and Chalcedon on the divinity of Christ.

 WHENEVER THE BIBLE SPEAKS OF “THE CHURCH” OR REFERENCES “THE CHURCHES”; the bible is referencing directly and specifically, today’s Catholic Church.

 It MUST in an absolute sense be today’s Catholic Church. …WHY?

Because there was NO-OTHER churches in existence. Pagan Temples: plenty; Jewish Synagogues: some. Church’s only “the Way”  , which soon changed to the new term of “Christian” [about 80 AD, and about 50 years after Christ death and resurrection], and then AROUND 100 AD in Antioch the term “Catholic Church” was first used.

 The Moral, Theological and simply very logical question to be asked seems to me to be:

 How [or “if”] One True God [Triune] CAN [is capable of] holding more than ONLY ONE set of Faith beliefs on ANY long defied; precise issue? And the answer has to be; NO!; Not even God [Because He MUST REMAIN GOOD] can hold not only differing; but very often even contradicting positions on the same defined issues. Where my friend does the bible teach otherwise?

 So What Christ did; what Christ intended and put into effect followed His Own OT tradition of Just One God; with Just One set of acceptable Beliefs and now, One Church instead of just One CHOSEN PEOPLE. God does not change

 It is beyond the pale of logic that Christ could, would or did wait some 1,200 + years for Henry, Luther, Calvin, Wycliffe, Jones, Smith or anyone else to make His Single set of Faith beliefs known. It is historical and biblical fact that the ONLY Church and Faith Founded by Christ; desired by Chris, and Protected and guided by Christ is todays Catholic Church.    END OF POINT #1.

  [2][QUOTE]“They alone are saved” … “FALSE “[/QUOTE]

 From the current catechism of the RCC

 780 “The Church in this world is the sacrament of salvation, the sign and the instrument of the communion of God and men.” This MEANS the Normal, not “the ONLY”.

 846 “How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

 Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.”

 847 “This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

 Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation”

 1260 “Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery.” Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.”

 End of # 2

 [3] [QUOTE]and that their “Church” is the only one started when Peter made his confession. And their claim this makes Peter the first pope and so on and so on[/QUOTE] “TRUE”

 My dear friend, your lack of right understanding is a result of holding positions that oppose God’s Own Singular truth. This need NOT be a permanent condition. Turn back to God with humility and a Desire to be shown His truth, and God WILL hear your plea.

 It is not simply “the Church” that holds this position; but God Himself. And it is provable both historically and biblically.

  Once again I remind you:

Malachi 3:6 “For I am the Lord, and I change not

 James 1:17 “Every best gift, and every perfect gift, is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of alteration”

 With complete continuity, without exception, God [Yahweh] from the beginning of recorded history of the Hebrew Nation [the Jewish people]; God saw fit to choose one man to Lead His chosen People.

 From Noe, to Abram, to Moses, to the Judges, to the Kings like David and Solomon, to the Prophets like Isaiah, and John the Baptist [the last OT Prophet], who led to Christ, who then choose Peter, to be the Leader of His New Founded Church [People]. Because I spent much time explaining One God; One Church and only One set of Faith beliefs. I’ll TRY to be more brief here. But know there is much additional evidence I can share, including “50 Bible First” for Peter, if you’d care to see it? The info I share now is directly on this topic.

 One does not find the word ”Pope” in the bible. Then again the term “bible” is also NOT found in the Bible either, so the term is a moot point. Logically, because what Christ intended was totally NEW, the terms were changed in the course of time, for man’s benefit.

[RSV bible] Heb. 8: 8 & 13 “For he finds fault with them when he says: “The days will come, says the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah; & In speaking of a new covenant he treats the first as obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away” This does mean made void; only “superseded.”

 Proofs of Peters Primacy

Douay Bible: Mt. 10: 1-8 “And having called his twelve disciples [Apostles] together, he gave them power over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of diseases, and all manner of infirmities.  And the names of the twelve apostles are these:The first, Simon who is called Peter, [Even here Matthew affirms Christ choice of Peter to lLEAD] and Andrew his brother, James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, Philip and Bartholomew, Thomas and Matthew the publican, and James the son of Alpheus, and Thaddeus, Simon the Cananean, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.  These twelve Jesus sent: commanding them, saying: Go ye not into the way of the Gentiles, and into the city of the Samaritans enter ye not. But go ye rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.  And going, preach, saying: The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out devils: freely have you received, freely give.”

Mt. 16: 18-19 “ And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon [YOU PETER] this rock I will build my church,[Singularand the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.   A PROMISE THAT THIS “CHURCH” WOULD LAST FOREVER AND NOT BE DEFEATED BY SATAN] And I will give to thee[ALL OF] the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven”

 Eph. 2:19-20 “So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, [Singular] built upon the foundation of the apostlesand prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple [Singular]in the Lord; in whom you also are built into it for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.”

 John 17:13-22And now I come to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they may have my joy filled in themselves. I have given them thy word, and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world…. [15] I pray not that thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that thou shouldst keep them from evil. .. As thou hast sent me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. And for them do I sanctify myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth. And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me; That they all may be one, as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee; that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou hast given me, I have given to them; that they may be one, as we also are one. This means exactly what it says: Christ here is once again passing His own Power and Authority to the Apostles through Peter.

FROM THE FINAL CHAPER OF JOHNS GOSPEL … John 20: 16-17 “He saith to him again:Simon,son of John, lovest thou me? He saith to him: Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I love thee. He saith to him: Feed my lambs. He said to him the third time: Simon, son of John,lovest thou me? Peter was grieved, because he had said to him the third time: Lovest thou me? And he said to him: Lord, thou knowest all things: thou knowest that I love thee. He said to him: Feed my sheep.”

Acts20: 28-30Take heed to yourselves, and to the whole flock, wherein the Holy Ghost hath placed you bishops, to rule the church of God, [Singular] which he hath purchased with his own blood. I know that, after my departure, ravening wolves will enter in among you, not sparing the flock.  And of your own selves shall arise men speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.”

 1 Peter 5: 2 “Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking care of it, not by constraint, but willingly, according to God: not for filthy lucre’ s sake, but voluntarily”

 Luke 22:32  Peter alone among the apostles is exhorted by Jesus to “strengthen your brethren”

And the Lord said: Simon, Simon, behold Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat.  But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and thou, being once converted, confirm thy brethren. “

 Now just a bit on the Origin of “Succession

Let’s go back to the top of this section; Mt. 10: 1-8 and look closely at what Christ HAD COMMNADED them specifically to Do and NOT to do.

 Mt. 10: 7-8 “Go ye not into the way of the Gentiles,and into the city of the Samaritans enter ye notBut go ye rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.[ONLY!]

 And then at the last moment [but NO DOUBT, long planed], Christ changes this command, changes this MANDATE

 Mark 16: 14-15 “ At length he appeared to the eleven [Apostles: Judas had hung himself]  as they were at table: and he upbraided them with their incredulity and hardness of heart, because they did not believe them who had seen him after he was risen again. And he said to them: Go ye into the whole world, and preach the gospel to every creature.”

 Matthew 28: 16-20 “And the eleven disciples [Apostles] went into Galilee, unto the mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth.  Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have [TAUGHT &] commanded you: and behold I am with youall days, even to the consummation of the world.”

 So now the Divine Will is made evident and clear. In order to fulfill this NEW expanded mandate, Succession is not an option, but an absolute necessity. And is Christ Himself who commanded it. Anything less than this would mean that Christ intended His New “Church,”  New Faith, to end with the demise of the Apostles. An impossible scenario. Peter mandating a replacement for Judas Acts 1 – 15-26; And Christ selection of Paul as the NEW 13th Apostle, make biblically clear that Christ and Peter were of the same mind on this issue of necessary Succession. Acts 9: 1-10. Both of these took place after Christ Resurrection.

END OF [#3]

 [QUOTE][4] And So the problem is also the RCC is leaving out all the righteous ppl from the OT. [4][WRONG more than FALSE] [/QUOTE]

 Keeping to a minimum on this; I will address your statement in the limited manner of JUST the OT, as you phrased it.

 The Catholic Church has NOTHING to do effecting the salvation of OT people. This all takes place under the OT Covenants, and mandated conditions. The One rather remote connection has to do with entry into heaven itself; which had been blocked from the Grave sins of Adam and Eve. And a primary effect of Christ Resurrection was to REOPEN  the Gate of Heaven, and allowing those Souls that had been waiting for this in the “Limbo of the Just” [similar to heaven BUT lacking the Beatific Vision; the Presence of God]. Non-Catholic-Christians, commonly and in grave error, try to make “Redemption and Salvation” SYNONYMOUS and completely interchangeable terms. THEY ARE NOT. Redemption involved all of humanity; past, present and future; and is an completed and accomplished fact. A primary result of which was to once again make salvation, IN HEAVEN,  POSSIBLE and a highly Conditional personal choice.

 [QUOTE]Think of it this way. God has always had a ppl from righteous Abel up to believers of today. And were these ‘first’ ppl Catholic? We all know the answer is, no. Now for those of you who think I just made this up, let’s look at what the Scripture says about this same ‘subject.'[/QUOTE]

 My dear friend, one MUST separate the people judged By God under the “Laws” and the New Covenant people now under Grace +” laws”. Mt. 19: 17] The criteria and demands are vastly different.Ac 7:38 This is he, [Moses] that was in the * church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

 [QUOTE]* church. See the problem comes in when ppl misuse the word ‘church.’ It’s ekklesia [GREEK] and means “Catholics,” right? [WRONG!]  No, it means the called out ones‘ So tell me this, did Christ/God just first began to ‘call ppl’ when Peter made his confusion, and then ONLY Catholic ppl? Or did God call ppl right from the beginning and continues to do so today?[/QUOTE]

 From STRONGS [an experts opinion] Bible lexicon for English to GREEK meanings: 

file:///D:/Internet%20Shortcuts/Strong’s%20Concordance%20with%20Hebrew%20and%20Greek%20Lexicon.htm

 Result of search for “church”:

  1.  ekklesia ek-klay-see’-ah from a compound of 1537 and a derivative of 2564; a calling out, i.e. (concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):–assembly, church.
  2.  episkopos ep-is’-kop-os from 1909 and 4649 (in the sense of 1983); a superintendent, i.e. Christian officer in genitive case charge of a (or the) church (literally or figuratively):–bishop, overseer.
  3.  kubernesis koo-ber’-nay-sis from kubernao (of Latin origin, to steer); pilotage, i.e. (figuratively) directorship (in the church):–government.
  4.  Sion see-own’ of Hebrew origin (6726); Sion (i.e. Tsijon), a hill of Jerusalem; figuratively, the Church (militant or triumphant):–Sion.
  5.  sunagoge soon-ag-o-gay’ from (the reduplicated form of) 4863; an assemblage of persons; specially, a Jewish “synagogue” (the meeting or the place); by analogy, a Christian church:–assembly, congregation, synagogue.From the Catechism of the RCC

 751 “The word “Church” (Latin ecclesia, from the Greek ek-ka-lein, to “call out of”) means a convocation or an assembly. It designates the assemblies of the people, usually for a religious purpose. Ekklesia is used frequently in the Greek Old Testamentfor the assembly of the Chosen People before God, above all for their assembly on Mount Sinai where Israel received the Law and was established by God as his holy people. By calling itself “Church,” the first community of Christian believers recognized itself as heir to that assembly. In the Church, God is “calling together” his people from all the ends of the earth. The equivalent Greek term Kyriake, from which the English word Church and the German Kirche are derived, means “what belongs to the Lord.”

 1181 “A church, “a house of prayer in which the Eucharist is celebrated and reserved, where the faithful assemble, and where is worshipped the presence of the Son of God our Savior, offered for us on the sacrificial altar for the help and consolation of the faithful – this house ought to be in good taste and a worthy place for prayer and sacred ceremonial.” In this “house of God” the truth and the harmony of the signs that make it up should show Christ to be present and active in this place”.

 My friend your position is most interesting, it that it is a rare non-Catholic-Christian who attempts to “lump together” all of , of all ages as being on the same foundation footing for Gods necessary fair and Just Judgment of each of us, being covered under the same identical conditions and Covenants. This is simply wrong; and NOT the way God’s Judgment is, is intended to be and WILL BE based on His Most recent Covenant; from the New Testament:

 Luke 5: 36-38 And he spoke also a similitude to them: That no man putteth a piece from a new garment upon an old garment; otherwise he both rendeth the new, and the piece taken from the new agreeth not with the old. And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: otherwise the new wine will break the bottles, and it will be spilled, and the bottles will be lost.  But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.”

 Hebrews 8: 6 -13 But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry which is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promisesFor if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion for a second.  For he finds fault with them when he says: “The days will come, says the Lord,

when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel [here this means with all of humanity] and with the house of Judah; not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; for they did not continue in my covenant, and so I paid no heed to them, says the Lord.
This is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel
after those days, says the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.  And they shall not teach every one his fellow or every one his brother, saying, `Know the Lord,’ for all shall [HAVE THE ABILTY TO.. a mind, intellect, freewill] know me, from the least of them to the greatest.  For I will be merciful toward their iniquities, and I will remember their sins no more.” ** {see explanation below} In speaking of a new covenant he treats the first as obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away”

 Heb. 8: 12 What this is teaching is exactly what it says CONDITIONALLY on John 20:19-23. Once the sins have been Confessed, [sacramental Confession] & FORGIVEN the sins WILL BE forgotten. This is not a teaching that all sins are somehow magically forgotten.

[QUOTE]So back to my question. Who are God’s ppl today?They are *believers, call out ones, who come from all walks of life, all races, all countries of the world. Some have been believers most of their life, some will be called out of various ‘religions’ and some will be called out as unbelievers, all to be grafted into the olive tree [Israel] who’s root is Christ. [/QUOTE] That is the RIGHT question to ask. The answer to which is not one easily accepted, or for that matter, easy to accomplish. And the RIGHT answer includes people from all faiths.

 Matthew 7: 13-24 Give’s the answer to those who have “eyes to see and ears to hear.”

 Mt. 13:13Therefore do I speak to them in parables: because seeing they see not,and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.” IF anyone is interested I will gladly get into a discussion of just WHAT this teaching means. But this discussion is already too long.

 “Enter ye in at the narrow gate: [singular]for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat. How narrow is the gate, [singular]and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it! Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

By their fruits you shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, and the evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can an evil tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit, shall be cut down, and shall be cast into the fire.  Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them. [AND I WILL JUDGE THEM]

Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. [THIS DEAR FRIEND IS THE PART WITHER IGNORED NOT CORRECTLY OR FULLY UNDERSTOOD OR GLOSSED OVER] Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquityEvery one therefore that heareth these my words, and doth them, shall be likened to a wise man that built his house upon a rock, And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat upon that house, and it fell not, for it was founded on a rock.

And every one that heareth these my words, and doth them not, shall be like a foolish man that built his house upon the sand,  And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat upon that house, and it fell, and great was the fall thereofOnly God’s One true Faith, and the [singular] church is built on Christ chosen ROCK. Amen! Cf. “And upon YOU Peter; THIS ROCK, I will [HAVE] built My Church [Singular.

It seems to ME, [in line with what the RCC teaches] that what non-Catholic-Christians fail to comprehend is that Salvation can and most definitely WILL happen ONLY on God’s terms. Not some come lately men’s, “try my way, it’s easier”. It’s “easier” at a VERY steep price my friends,

 [QUOTE]So I repeat. God has always had a ppl and when these ppl, these believers, turn away from God’s law/commandments they are ‘destroyed’ because they lose their connection with their Creator and lose the blessings of God, and possibly eternal life.

*believers, The Scriptures call them “Israel” whether born or adopted/grafted in. Now I know this will offend some but God is called, The God of Israel. Peter stood up and addressed, Catholics? No, “ye men of Israel,” etc. etc.[/QUOTE]

 Actually Peter DOD address Catholics; only they didn’t YET recognize this new term.

 May God Bless you and grant unto you HIS Wisdom, Knowledge and Right Understanding. Amen!

 IamCatholic

Patrick

Easter weeks seems like an approiate time to discuss what the RCC Teaches about salvation By Pat Miron

A Brief dialog on Salvation, the RCC, then and Now

 [QUOTE] I appreciate all that you wrote; but most of my questions remain unanswered:

Question #1: Is Unam Sanctam, which declares, proclaims, and defines that “it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff,” an infallible teaching?[/QUOTE]

 The answer to the last part is YES but only because it states what the Church has taught nearly forever; It is a Defined Dogma of the RCC and it is this that make it infallible.

BUT it is the Church, NOT the Pontiff [Infallibility MUST be specifically declared] that makes this teaching binding on everyone.

[QUOTE]Question #2: If Unam Sanctam is infallible, did Pope Boniface VIII infallibly define any of the exceptions that are taught today in the CC? [/QUOTE]

 Good QuestionBut not really relevant. While ALL Defined Dogma are unchangeable this means that the BASIC Truth can never change. It DOES NOT mean that the understanding cannot get better and aligned with current needs. Today’s Teaching HOLDS to the Basis Truth while ADDING the POSSIBILITY of other Christians who too have the sacrament of Baptism AND Belief in the Blessed Trinity; and WHO HAVE NEVER been exposed to the truths of the CC; MIGHT, through this sacramental unity and common belief under Precise conditions, also be included THROUGH the CC, in the POSSIBILITY of Salvation.

[QUOTE]Question #3: If Pope Boniface VIII did not define exceptions; at what point in history were “exceptions” infallibly defined? [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Partial reply:

Since, Pope Eugene IV seems to be saying the same thing, only more sternly; I think it is fair to ask the same questions about the Bull Cantate Domino of 1441.

Pope Eugene IV:
“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; [/QUOTE]

 Friend, I’m unsure you if you have a right understating of the POWER of the Church to NOT CHANGE; BUT EXPAND understanding as it becomes both Inspired by the HS and made necessary by a changing world? There was and IS NO NEED for “today’s exceptions” because they frankly were not a factor of possible consideration when either of these documents were propagated.

 From the catechism of the RCC

780 “The Church in this world is the sacrament of salvation, the sign and the instrument of the communion of God and men”

 846 “How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

 Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.”

 847 “This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

 Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation”.

 1260 “Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery.” Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.”

 Question #5: If it is infallible, did Pope Eugene IV infallibly define any of the exceptions that are taught today in the CC? I can’t imagine that he did. Who is left after “pagans, Jews, heretics, and schismatics” are professed to be headed into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with the CC.

[QUOTE]Question #6: If Pope Eugene IV did not define exceptions; at what point in history were “exceptions” infallibly defined?[/QUOTE]

 SAME as Q #1

[QUOTE]Through these 6 questions, I’m basically asking the same thing Catholic forum members CHESTERTONRULES and ron77nyc asked–I quoted them in post #329.

How did the Catholic Church go from “No salvation outside the Catholic Church” to the exceptions given in the Catechism and other places? No one has answered this; and I’ve given up hope that anyone will.[/QUOTE]

These ARE NOT EXCEPTIONS! They are the result of Historical World-wide changes that NEEDED to be addressed. The Base Teaching of. the CC DID NOT AND CANNOT be changed. NOTICE PLEASE these two passages: Mt. 16:19  “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, [DONE DEAL] and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” These terms MEAN unlimited power of Governance by Gods chose Popes. And in Jn. 20: 21-22 which is the Institution of THEE CC “Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit.” This is an actual transfer of POWER From Christ to His Church: WITH THE SAME POWERS AND AUTHORITY THAT JESUS HAD ON EARTH.

 John 17:17-20Sanctify them in truth. Thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. And for them do I sanctify myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth. And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me”

 John 20:21-22 “He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you. When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost”

 

 

the Ten Commandments [catagories of sin] by Patrick Miron

I am Catholic

Booklet Nine The Commandments By Pat Miron

“What God commands He makes possible by His grace.” CCC 2082

Long before Jesus was conceived in the virgin womb of his Blessed Mother Mary by the power of God, and the direct intervention of the Holy Spirit, the great “I AM,” presented his chosen people, our Jewish ancestors, ten rules for life.” Moses said to God, ‘if I come to the people of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ what shall I say to them?” God said to Moses, ‘I AM WHO AM.’” Known originally as the Decalogue (which means “ten words”), and presented to Moses in stone they were expanded to over six hundred rules by the time of the birth of Jesus. Our Savior clarified their intent and explained their current application to our life in His Sermon on the Mount. (Matt: chapter five). We know them today as the Ten Commandments. The Church Council of Trent formally pronounced their always-binding obligation on mankind. cf. CCC 2068

Each Commandment is far more expansive in its intended application to our life than might be evident from a fast and simple reading of them. Our God is all knowing and all wise. Our knowledge and wisdom are limited. Therefore it is incumbent upon us to ask through prayer, the Third Person of the Blessed Trinity, The Holy Spirit, to enlighten our understanding, and give us the needed courage to do all that God asks and expects of us.

“The Ten Commandments state what is required in the love of God and love of neighbor. The first three concern the love of God, and the other seven love of neighbor.” CCC 2067

The First Commandment:

I am the Lord thy God, you shall have no strange god’s before me.  “‘Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law? ’And he said to him, ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment.’ “ Matt: 22: 37-38 “And the Lord said to Moses, ‘Say to all the congregation of the people of Israel, You shall be holy; for I the Lord your God am holy. I am the Lord your God. Do not turn to idols or make for yourselves molten gods: I am the Lord your God.‘ ” Liv: 19: 1-4

A basic understanding of this first rule for eternal life includes knowing that our God is a jealous God. “The Lord is a jealous God and avenging; the Lord takes vengeance on his adversaries and keeps wrath for his enemies.” Nahum: 1: 1-2

“Other gods” means more than the molten images of Aaron, and are to include anyone, and anything that we place in preference to God, or permit to hinder our adoration or love of God. Family members, work, lust, greed, envy, jealously, hatred and sloth are but some of today’s custom made idols that interfere with us always placing God first.

The first commandment embraces the theological virtues of Faith, Hope and Charity: “The first commandment and the virtue of Faith, requires us to nourish our faith with prudence and vigilance, and to reject everything that is opposed to it.” CCC 2088 We are directed by Christ Himself to “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are Gods.” Matt: 22: 21 This obligates us to prayer, sacrifice, learning the truth and accepting it, avoiding all superstitious practices, avoiding Divination (the art of knowing and declaring future events) and magic. It also obligates us to the Church’s (God’s) rules for fast and abstinence, which by the way apply all year long; and are not limited to the Lenten season. The Church does however permit, giving up something else in place of red meat. Fridays continue as a day of sacrifice, fifty-two weeks a year. This is a grave obligation.

*In faith this Commandment demands that we recognize God as our Supreme Creator. We cannot explicitly deny His reality and presence (atheism), including His Sacred presence in the Holy Eucharist. It obligates us to praise, honor, worship and glorify Him in all that we do.

*The first commandment and the virtue of Hope are concerned with sins of despair and presumption. CCC 2090 – 2092  “By despair, man ceases to hope for his personal salvation from God.”  Presumption takes two forms. Either man presumes upon his own capabilities ,without assistance from God, or presumes upon God’s mercy hoping to gain forgiveness without conversion, repentance or merit.

*The first commandment and the virtue of Charity “enjoins us to love God above everything and all creatures for Him and because of Him.” CCC 2093 Not only are we to love God, (always the first and primary love of our hearts), but we are to love our neighbor (everyone, without regard to race, creed or color), as ourselves. cf. Matt: 6: 44  The virtuous practice of Charity also prohibits sins of indifference, ingratitude, negligence, acedia (spiritual sloth), and sins of pride. 

The Second Commandment:

 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.”  Say what you mean,and mean what you say.  cf. Matt: 5: 33-34

            The second commandment prescribes respect for the name of our Lord, and forbids all abuse of Gods name. Promises and oaths must be kept. We are not to blaspheme God, His saints or His only things. We are prohibited to use God’s good name to cover up a crime, or to reduce people to servitude. The second commandment prohibits perjury and all lying. “Blasphemy is contrary to the respect due God and His holy name. It is (usually) a grave (Mortal) sin. CCC  2148

“In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus explains: “Again you have heard that it was said to the men of old, ‘you shall not swear falsely, but shall perform to the Lord what you have sworn.’ But I say to you, do not swear at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, or by the earth, for it is his footstool, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King.  And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make one hair white or black. Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from evil.” Matt: 5:33-37

Every Christian is baptized with a Christian name (The name of a saint); therefore our names too are holy and are to be treated respectfully. We are to be mindful when we make the sign of the cross that we are calling on our Triune Godhead for grace. Do so with respect.

 

The Third Commandment:

Remember to keep holy the Lord’s Day.

In Old Testament times, “the Sabbath day” was Saturday, the seventh day of the week. It was always a day of rest. Today’s Jews continue the Old Testament tradition of Saturday as a holy day of praise and rest. Christians use Sunday as our Sabbath day, because it was on Easter Sunday that Christ rose form the dead. Thus it was on a Sunday that our life under grace began. “ For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but (now) under grace. What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? (No!)” Rom: 6: 14-15

“’You shall keep my Sabbaths, for this is a sign between me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I, the Lord, sanctify you. You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy for you; every one who profanes it shall be put to death. Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. “ Ex: 31: 14-17

“The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath; so the Son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath.” Mk: 2: 27-28

The concise message and directive of the Commandments is love obediently applied through an obligatory informed conscience.

The Sunday celebration of the Lord’s Day and His Eucharist is the heart of the Church’s life. “ CCC 2177 Participation in this most holy and awesome gift from God, is the single most important and significant source of grace available to us. It is grace from God in a most direct, unique and special manner; as it is Jesus Himself we receive in Holy Communion. We invite Jesus Himself into our souls and our bodies. The Real Jesus, not simply a symbol.  Therefore this privilege of Sunday and Holy Day Holy Mass imposes on all Catholics, a solemn, grave obligation for weekly attendance and full, active participation as minimal worship, praise and thanksgiving to our Triune Godhead. Only serious matter like illness, childcare, or dispensation from ones pastor, can excuse our not fulfilling this obligation without committing Mortal sin.

“You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” Matt: 5: 48

Obedience and copying are perfect ways to flatter someone. We should not be surprised that our God desires that we do both of these things for Him. God loves us perfectly, and desires that we love Him perfectly in return. In order to do this we must hear and obey. “ So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God; for whoever enters God’s rest also ceases from his labors as God did from his.” Heb: 4: 1-3  Sundays are a day of rest from unnecessary work. This is God’s plan and law. As our Creator he knows well that we too need a regular time of rest. It should be a family day, a day of good works, leisure, piety and relaxation. cf. CCC 2184, 2185

The Holy Days of Obligation are:

“In accord with CIC 1246, the National Conference of Catholic Bishops decrees that the holydays of obligation to be observed in the United States are the solemnity of Mary, the Mother of God; the solemnity of the Ascension; the solemnity of the Assumption; the solemnity of All Saints; the solemnity of the Immaculate Conception; the solemnity of Christmas. The solemnity of the Epiphany shall be transferred to the first Sunday following January 1st; the solemnity of Corpus Christi shall be observed on the second Sunday following Pentecost. When the solemnities of Mary, Mother of God, the Assumption, and All Saints fall on a Saturday or a Monday they will not be observed as holy days of obligation.” Note: The Feast of The Ascension has in many areas has been moved to the following Sunday.

The Fourth Commandment:

Honor your father and your mother. Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother” (this is the first commandment with a promise),  ‘that it may be well with you and that you may live long on the earth.’ Pay all of them their dues, taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.’ “ Rom: 12: 7 This commandment enjoins not only children, but also binds parents with specific responsibilities toward their offspring and each other.

Christ never failed to demonstrate in His own life’s example on earth, all that He commanded us. “All who heard him were amazed at his understanding and his answers. When they saw him they were astonished; and his mother said to him, ‘Son, why have you treated us so? Behold, your father and I have been looking for you anxiously.’ He said to them, ‘How is it that you sought me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house?’ They did not understand the saying, which he spoke to them. And he went down with them and came to Nazareth, and was obedient to them; and his mother kept all these things in her heart.” Lk: 2: 48-51

The fourth commandment introduces the all-encompassing, binding law of love. “You have heard it said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward have you?  Mt: 5: 43-46 Love begins at home with patience, forgiveness and charity. Then like the sun, it is to shine fourth for all to see, feel, share and experience. The Catholic family is the very foundation on which the Church exists and grows. It is from the family that the children of God are formed in His likeness. The family is the fountain of vocations, so necessary for the growth of the Church, and our salvation. “Marriage and the family are ordered to the good of the spouses and to the procreation (that is creation with Divine intent and intervention) and education of children. The love of spouses and the begetting of children create among members of the same family personal relationships and primordial responsibilities. “ CCC 2201

“The family is the original cell of social life. It is the natural society in which husband and wife are called to give themselves in love and in the gift of life. Authority, stability, and a life of relationships within the family constitute the foundations for freedom, security, and fraternity within society. The family is the community in which, from childhood, one can (and should) learn moral values, begin to honor God, and make good use of freedom. Family life is an initiation into life in society.” CCC 2207

“Children are to always show respect for their parents. This is especially true while they remain at home, regardless of age. If a child resides under the roof of his parents, he is to be obedient unto them. “But if a child is convinced in conscience that it would be morally wrong to obey a particular order, he must not do so. “ As they grow up, children should continue to respect their parents. They should anticipate their wishes, willingly seek their advice, and accept their just admonitions. Obedience toward parents ceases with the emancipation of the children; not so respect, which is always owed to them. This respect has its roots in the fear of God, one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.” CCC 2217

“The fourth commandment reminds grown children of their responsibilities toward their parents. As much as they can, they must give them material and moral support in old age and in times of illness, loneliness, or distress. Jesus recalls this duty of gratitude.”  CCC 2218

“The fecundity of conjugal love cannot be reduced solely to the procreation of children, but must extend to their moral education and their spiritual formation. “The role of parents ineducation is of such importance that it is almost impossible to provide an adequate substitute. The right and the duty of parents to educate their children are primordial and inalienable.” CCC 2221

“Education in the faith by the parents should begin in the child’s earliest years. This already happens when family members help one another to grow in faith by the witness of a Christian life in keeping with the Gospel. Family catechesis precedes, accompanies, and enriches other forms of instruction in the faith. Parents have the mission of teaching their children to pray and to discover their vocation as children of God.The parish is the Eucharistic community and the heart of the liturgical life of Christian families; it is a privileged place for the catechesis of children and parents.” CCC 2226

 “Submission to authority and co-responsibility for the common good make it morally obligatory to pay taxes, to exercise the right to vote, and to defend one’s country.” CCC 2240 “The citizen is obliged in conscience not to follow the directives of civil authorities when they are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or the teachings of the Gospel. Refusing obedience to civil authorities, when their demands are contrary to those of an upright conscience, finds its justification in the distinction between serving God and serving the political community. “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.””We must obey God rather than men.” CCC 2242

“It is a part of the Church’s mission “to pass moral judgments even in matters related to politics, whenever the fundamental rights of man or the salvation of souls requires it. The only means to be used are those which are in accord with the Gospel and the welfare of all men according to the diversity of times and circumstances.” CCC 2246 While this does not limit itself to matters of life, the requirement for Catholics to vote Pro-Life, exceeds ones right to choose a candidate, regardless of party who openly and actively supports abortion. We are obligated to always vote our moral conscience in preference to party affiliation and consideration.

The Fifth Commandment:

You shall not kill. “You have heard that it was said to the men of old, ‘You shall not kill; and whoever kills shall be liable to judgment.’ But I say to you that every one who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother shall be liable to the council, and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be liable to the hell of fire. “ Mt: 5: 21-22 

Human life is a sacred gift from God. It is to be respected, protected, cherished and nourished from inception to death. Both inception and death are reserved to a time and place of God’s choosing. This commandment prohibits much beyond the recognized murder of the innocent. It clearly includes the protection of all unborn babies. Do not doubt that abortion, avocation of abortion, “blind” support of abortion or any known association with abortion is likely a grievous sin. cf. CCC 2270-2274

We are permitted to defend ourselves our families, and our Country with reasonable means that could include lethal force. cf. CCC 2264 The State too, in order to protect its citizens can use reasonable, even lethal force, in order to accomplish its proper role. The State does have recourse to the “death penalty,” if non-lethal means are insufficient to protect the peoples safely from the aggressor. All life is sacred, and death is to be an exceptional, rarely applied remedy, and never used as a deterrent, but only to preserve other lives. cf. CCC 2267

Life is a gift without a return policy. Illness, old age, dissatisfaction with life’s crosses which come from God with a purpose that often only He understands at the time. Our lack of understanding does not give cause or justification for murder, euthanasia or suicide. Only God can determine the intent of the actions, and justly judge the consequences. All forms of murder are intrinsically ordered, and carry the high risk of grievous sin. “We should not despair if a loved one takes their life, as our God is a merciful judge, and extenuating circumstances are always factored in. We are stewards, not owners of life.” CCC 2280

 “Discontinuing medical procedures that are burdensome, dangerous, extraordinary, or disproportionate to the expected outcome can be legitimate; it is the refusal of “over-zealous” treatment. Here one does not will to cause death; one’s inability to impede it is merely accepted. The decisions should be made by the patient if he is competent and able or, if not, by those legally entitled to act for the patient, whose reasonable will and legitimate interests must always be respected.” CCC 2278

“Autopsies can be morally permitted for legal inquests or scientific research. The free gift of organs after death is legitimate and can be meritorious. The Church permits cremation, provided that it does not demonstrate a denial of faith in the resurrection of the body.” CCC 2301

Less obvious is our obligation to take reasonable measures to protect our health by eating correctly, exercising, getting the necessary rest and relaxation, and avoiding non-medical drugs, and excessive alcohol. We need be mindful that our bodies are (should always be) temples of the Holy Spirit, and at the time of Holy Communion, the abode of Jesus Christ Himself. 

This commandment also binds us not to gossip, cause slander, or endanger another’ good name. “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.” Rom: 13: 9 -10 We must also work and strive for peace in our hearts, families, local community, Church and our world.

The Sixth Commandment:

You shall not commit adultery: “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.’ “

“Sexuality affects all aspects of the human person in the unity of his body and soul. It especially concerns affectivity, the capacity to love and to procreate, and in a more general way the aptitude for forming bonds of communion with others. ” CCC 2332

The good news is that sex is good! cf. CCC 23

The bad news is that it is a gift from God to be used only as He as our Creator intended. Because most of the folks who will read this book will likely be married, or considering marriage, I shall cover this topic in a bit more depth. There exist today a prevailing mindset that we can decide for ourselves what is right for us. Our bodies “are our own,” and as long as we don’t hurt anyone, we are “free” to do with them, pretty much as we see fit. That certainly is the message broadcast media flaunts daily, and its acceptance and application is a sure path to hell. Sex outside of marriage is more than simply “O.K.,” its almost expected behavior in today’s New Age, anything does, don’t judge me, and I won’t judge you society, which is a serious moral wrong.

God creates everything. To create means to make out of nothing. Our bodies, minds and souls are created by God, and belong to God. They are simply on loan to us for the express purpose of giving Him greater honor and glory and working out His plan for our salvation. Unlike Grace, which is a gift, the basic elements of our existence are ours to use, not to keep. We therefore have only limited rights, as designed by God. All use of our minds, bodies and souls that do not give glory and honor to God, are to some degree, disordered and to varying degrees, sinful.

“Everyone, man and woman, should acknowledge and accept their own sexual identity. Physical, moral, and spiritual difference and complementarity are oriented toward the goods of marriage and the flourishing of family life. The harmony of the couple and of society depends in part on the way in which the complementarity, needs, and mutual support between the sexes are lived out. ” CCC 2333 “In creating men ‘male and female,’ God gives man and woman an equal personal dignity.’ CCC 2334  “Sexuality is a source of joy and pleasure.” Married women have the same right to sexual satisfaction as do their husband. cf. CCC 2362

Every human person is to practice chastity to the degree and in the manner required by his station in life. cf. CCC 2348

*All forms of premarital sex are forbidden, as the express purpose of conjugal love is the unimpeded possibility of procreation. cf. CCC 2360-2361 This includes those who are engaged, but not yet married.

*Masturbation, which is the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure outside of conjugal love making (usually, but not always by oneself), has no possibility of procreation, is ordered only for personal gratification, and therefore is gravely disordered.

*”Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection. ” CCC 2359

*Pornography is dangerous, habit forming, and disordered as it debases the sacred and beautiful act of love, wrongly stresses personal satisfaction, introduces in some manner a third “person” into the relationship, and profits those who sell their souls for illicit and immoral gain. It is especially dangerous to our youth who learn to see their opposite gender as mere “sex -objects,” acquisitions and in a sad unrealistic, morally distorted sense, sex toys.

*Married couples may not employ any unnatural means (contraception) to limit the possibility of a pregnancy. To do so is gravely disordered, as it seeks to usurp from God our Creator, His option and control of birth issues. “Fecundity is a gift, an end of marriage, for conjugal love naturally tends to be fruitful. A child does not come from outside as something added on to the mutual love of the spouses, but springs from the very heart of that mutual giving, as its fruit and fulfillment.”  CCC 2366

*”A particular aspect of this responsibility concerns the regulation of procreation. For just reasons, spouses may wish to space the births of their children. It is their duty to make certain that their desire is not motivated by selfishness but is in conformity with the generosity appropriate to responsible parenthood. Moreover, they should conform their behavior to the objective criteria of morality: When it is a question of harmonizing married love with the responsible transmission of life, the morality of the behavior does not depend on sincere intention and evaluation of motives alone; but it must be determined by objective criteria, criteria drawn from the nature of the person and his acts criteria that respect the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love; this is possible only if the virtue of married chastity is practiced with sincerity of heart” CCC 2368

*”Periodic continence, that is, the methods of birth regulation based on self- observation and the use of infertile periods, is in conformity with the objective criteria of morality. These methods respect the bodies of the spouses, encourage tenderness between them, and favor the education of an authentic freedom. In contrast, ‘every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible’ is intrinsically evil. CCC 2370

*Divorce: A proper Sacramental, consummated marriage cannot, may not be dissolved or terminated.

*Every station in life brings with it joys, sufferings, sacrifices and crosses. Each has its own path to heaven and to personal happiness; marriage is but one-way to eternal salvation. The noble and natural purpose of marriage is procreation and the growth of God’s Church. However not every married union is blessed with children. This to is God’s plan, and charitable, self- giving sex is both permitted and encouraged, as chaste conjugal love is the cement of a happy marriage. God insists on being the “author of life.” “For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love be servants of one another. “ Gal: 5: 4 –5

The Seventh Commandment:

You shall not steal: “ A false balance is an abomination to the Lord, but a just weight is his delight. “To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to the Lord than sacrifice.” Prov: 11: 1, 21: 3 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust * consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” Mt:6: 19 – 21

I forget at times to gives thanks for being born in America. No other country offers its citizens, and its guest so much freedom and opportunity for wealth. Yet we have proven time and again, that these two can be a source of sin. Materialism as a religion is commonly practiced, and we are told continuously, that it is all right to do what ever we desire. Is it even remotely conceivable that Jesus, for a time became a mere man, gave up His heavenly throne, and suffered the most humiliating and excruciating death known to mankind, and not expect that we too endure the crosses He sends us? Each tailored specifically to lead us to heaven. No, it is not.

God’s rules for obedience of the seventh commandment are common sense, practiced with charity and applied with love.

          * We can only serve one God so the virtue of temperance is to be practiced. Do not allow yourself to become overly attached or attracted to worldly goods “In economic matters, respect for human dignity requires the practice of the virtue of temperance, so as to moderate attachment to this world’s goods; the practice of the virtue of justice, to preserve our neighbor’s rights and render him what is his due; and the practice of solidarity, in accordance with the golden rule and in keeping with the generosity of the Lord, who “though he was rich, yet for your sake . . . became poor so that by his poverty, you might become rich.” CCC 2407

*The basis for economic justice is that we should not take or desire to take anything that is not ours. This includes damaging the good name or reputation of someone, even an organization. It also obligates employers to provide living wages and treat employees fairly and justly, including reasonable opportunity for advancement. Employees must give a full day’s work with good effort. All are obligated to pay social security and assist those in greater need. cf. CCC 2429, 2434, 2436, 2443

*”The seventh commandment forbids theft, that is, usurping another’s property against the reasonable will of the owner. There is no theft if consent can be presumed or if refusal is contrary to reason and the destination of goods. This is the case in obvious and urgent necessity when the only way to provide for immediate, essential needs (food, shelter, clothing . . .) is to put at one’s disposal and use the property of others.” CCC 2408

*”Promises must be kept and contracts strictly observed to the extent that the commitments made in them are morally just. A significant part of economic and social life depends on the honoring of contracts between physical or moral persons – commercial contracts of purchase or sale, rental or labor contracts. All contracts must be agreed to and executed in good faith.” CCC 2410

*”The seventh commandment enjoins respect for the integrity of creation. Animals, like plants and inanimate beings, are by nature destined for the common good of past, present, and future humanity.” CCC 2415 “It is contrary to human dignity to cause animals to suffer or die needlessly. It is likewise unworthy to spend money on them that should as a priority go to the relief of human misery. One can love animals; one should not direct to them the affection due only to persons.” CCC 2418

The Golden Rule: “So whatever you wish that men would do to you, do so to them; for this is the law and the prophets.” Mt: 7: 12 “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”Mt:19:19

The Eighth Commandment:

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor:  “Do not devise a lie against your brother, nor do the like to a friend. Refuse to utter any lie, for the habit of lying serves no good.” Sir: 7: 12-13

“The one you have chosen as Master is not a merchant of illusions, not one of the powerful of this world, nor an astute and clever thinker,” the Pope said during his homily. “You know whom you have decided to follow: He is the Risen Crucified One! Christ who died for you, Christ who rose for you.” “And I assure you that you will not be disappointed,” the Pontiff added. “Man’s real strength,” he continued, “is seen in the fidelity with which he is capable to render witness to truth, resisting blandishments and threats, incomprehension and blackmail, including harsh and merciless persecution.” “Only if you are willing to do this, will you become what Jesus expects of you, namely salt of the earth and light of the world; ” “Dear young people, do not lose your flavor of Christians, the flavor of the Gospel!” the Pope concluded, raising his voice. “Keep it alive by constantly meditating on the paschal mystery: May the cross be your school of wisdom!” Pope John Paul’s Palm Sunday homily to European youth, The Vatican, 2002: Zenit: ZE02032404

The source of all truth is God Himself and we are to live this truth as taught by the life example of His Son Jesus. “Men could not live with one another if there were not mutual confidence that they were being truthful with each other.” CCC 2469 “Man tends by nature toward the truth. He is obliged to honor and bear witness to it: “It is in accordance with their dignity that all men, because they are persons . . . are both impelled by their nature and bound by a moral obligation to seek the truth, especially religious truth. They are also bound to adhere to the truth once they come to know it and direct their whole lives in accordance with the demands of truth.” CCC 2467

What does the Eighth Commandment compel?

* It prohibits giving false witness and perjury.

* We are obligated to go out of our way to protect another reputation. We must avoid making rash, unsubstantiated judgments; we are to avoid detraction, which without valid reason, discloses another faults or failings; we must avoid the sin of calumny, by not making remarks contrary to the truth, and giving the occasion for making false judgments against them. cf. CCC 2477

* We are to avoid flattery or adulation, which confirms or encourages another in malicious acts or perverse conduct. cf. CCC 2480

*We are to avoid bragging. “Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.” 1:Pet: 5: 5

A lie is the most direct offense against the truth. “A lie consists in speaking a falsehood with the intention of deceiving.” CCC 2482 . The sinful seriousness of a lie depends of the intention to do harm, and on the amount of harm done. All lies are sinful, some lies can be grievous. All lies should be confessed in the sacrament of Penance.

Every offense committed against justice and truth entails the duty of reparation, even if its author has been forgiven. When it is impossible publicly to make reparation for a wrong, it must be made secretly. If someone who has suffered harm cannot be directly compensated, he must be given moral satisfaction in the name of charity. This duty of reparation also concerns offenses against another’s reputation. This reparation, moral and sometimes material, must be evaluated in terms of the extent of the damage inflicted. It obliges in conscience.” CCC2487

* “The right to the communication of the truth is not unconditional. Everyone must conform his life to the Gospel precept of fraternal love. This requires us in concrete situations to judge whether or not it is appropriate to reveal the truth to someone who asks for it. “CCC 2488 The command to “love our neighbor as ourselves” always has merit and application in living our lives as Christians. “The secret of the sacrament of reconciliation is sacred, and cannot be violated under any pretext. “The sacramental seal is inviolable; therefore, it is a crime for a confessor in any way to betray a penitent by word or in any other manner or for any reason.” CCC 2490  Professional secrets, from political office, soldiers, physicians and lawyers, are confidential information, given under seals of secrecy and must be kept, except in where keeping it will cause very grave harm to the one confided. cf. CCC 2491

I was somewhat surprised to discover that ones artistic gifts and talents are also covered under this Commandment. CCC 2501,2502 As all our abilities are gifts from God, they are to be developed and put to proper use in giving glory, honor and praise to the Almighty Triune God-head. Certainly this applies to Domus Dei, Gods house. Every  Christian, not only Catholic Churchs should give physical evidence of whose house it really is, and who is the center of our worship. One can attend a simple school room to learn ones faith, but if a church is to be a place of Divine worship, the center of that worship had better be the Great I AM, or it is grievously misdirected. Catholics are able, and therefore obligated to manifest this truth in a most spectacular and special manner by having the reserved tabernacle wherein resides the Real Person of Jesus Christ, visible to all, and available to all. As we have previously shown, the only, exception to this, is when this tabernacle location would regularly be exposed to desecration from unbelievers.

 “A church, “a house of prayer in which the Eucharist is celebrated and reserved, where the faithful assemble, and where is worshipped the presence of the Son of God our Savior, offered for us on the sacrificial altar for the help and consolation of the faithful – this house ought to be in good taste and a worthy place for prayer and sacred ceremonial. In this ‘house of God’ the truth and the harmony of the signs that make it up should show Christ to be present and active in this place.” CCC 1181 A Church is always, first and foremost a place for Divine worship. Of extreme importance, but secondarily, it is a place where God’s people gather and are united as the people of God, in a real sense as His church, His holy people. Ask yourself if the interior of the church in which you worship gives clear physical evidence of being a sacred and holy place, not merely reflective of a “gathering space.” Yes you can lift your mind and heart to God in a meeting hall, with God, all things are possible, but are we giving to God all the glory and respect He demands, and except for ego and personal opinion are able to give God?

“For this reason bishops, personally or through delegates, should see to the promotion of sacred art, old and new, in all its forms and, with the same religious care, remove from the liturgy and from places of worship everything which is not in conformity with the truth of faith and the authentic beauty of sacred art.” CCC 2503 This directive neither implies nor mandates that all signs of piety are to be removed, as at times happens.

* “Martyrdom is the supreme witness given to the truth of the faith: it means bearing witness even unto death. The martyr bears witness to Christ who died and rose, to whom he is united by charity. He bears witness to the truth of the faith and of Christian doctrine. He endures death through an act of fortitude. “Let me become the food of the beasts, through whom it will be given me to reach God.” CCC 2473      

The Ninth Commandment:          

You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife / husband: A thief of hearts you cannot be. “Do not love the world or the things in the world. If any one loves the world, love for the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the pride of life, is not of the Father but is of the world.” 1: Jn: 2: 15 – 16

The ninth commandment is an extension and further articulation of the sixth commandment, which prohibits all sinful sexual acts; but you have heard Jesus tell us; “‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away; it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell.” Mt: 5: 27 -30 Jesus is not telling us to maim ourselves, He is telling us that this is a serious, potentially grievous matter, so listen up.

Both men and women above the age of reason possessing certitude of understanding are bound by this commandment which specifically prohibits sexual covetousness. “To covet,” means to desire something, or in this case someone whom we are not morally entitled to have sexual union with. It applies equally to the single and married state of life, and to both males and females. It prohibits all intentional, uncontrolled sexual desire for anyone except our spouse, and even then our desires are to be controlled, and chastely directed. (We have already explained that sex in marriage can and should be a mutually enjoyable and satisfying experience). We are not to dream, fantasize, or even willingly think impure thoughts about having sex outside of marriage, or with anyone except our spouse. Is this possible? YES, but only with Divine intervention. It cannot be accomplished by our own volition and will.

“If, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.  For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by one man’s obedience many will be made righteous. Law came in, to increase the trespass; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. “Rom: 5: 17 – 21 God, by His justice and mercy is obligated to provide, and offer sufficient grace to permit our salvation. In the same way, we are similarly obligated to cooperate, accept, apply and use the grace as God intends.

“The disciples said to him, “If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is not expedient to marry.” But he (Jesus) said to them, “Not all men can receive this saying, but only those to whom it (sufficient grace) is (will be) given.” Mt: 19: 11″ Even when it is sought by a priest or religious, it is a gift from God to those He extends to provide the extraordinary graces to live this life for Him.          

There is much debate, most of it senseless and improperly motivated, regarding the “absurdity of virginity,” and Catholic priest being married. “Virginity: This word is used in more than one sense.  Integrity of the hymen in women is called physical virginity.  Perfect chastity or continence, which is the intention in men or women to avoid all sexual pleasure, is also called virginity.  As a moral virtue, virginity is properly defined as the firm intention of abstaining from all sexual pleasure in one who has never enjoyed it licitly (in marriage) or illicitly. It is in the teaching of Christ (Matt. 19:11) and the Church (Council of Trent).  Paul recommended virginity to both men and women on the grounds that unmarried people can give more time to God than married people (1 Cor. 7:25-35; 1 Tim. 5:22). Although marriage was the common state in the Old Testament, virginity was not unknown.  Moses’ sister, Miriam, does not seem to have had a husband nor does the prophet Jeremiah seem to have had a wife.  In the New Testament, Martha does not seem to have had a husband; and John the Evangelist and Paul did not have wives.  The Blessed Virgin Mary is the chief example of perfect virginity, even though she was also a mother.” Encyclopedic Dictionary of the Bible 

Directed by God, we choose our vocation. If we have chosen wisely, God provides all the necessary grace and help we need to fulfill His call. Virginity is but one way to serve our Lord. It is as Saint Paul tells us, a more difficult, but a more perfect way. While we are all priest in the order of Melchizedek (Heb: 5: 6), those men called by God to Holy Orders, serve a special need and purpose, and are (supposed to be) willingly and knowingly committed to celibacy. This is both a chosen sacrifice and a most worthy gift. With thirty – five years of marriage, many of them in management, it is evident to me that a married minister (or as proposed by some, a priest) is pushing the limits of prudence and justice by supposing that he can adequately fulfill both full-time positions. It is rare (but not impossible), that an ordained man of God can be both a good minister / priest, and a proper father. Celibacy while not specifically demanded by God, has been the long and prudent Tradition of the Catholic Church, and has been successfully lived by many thousands of priests, religious and Saints through the years. It may be more difficult in this time of sexual permissiveness, flaunted immorality, and New Age, godless religion. But thousands of committed holy men and women are waging the battle, and with God’s grace, staying the course. Are there no married pedophiles? How does a married priesthood solve this problem? We either accept and apply God’s grace, or we refuse it to our detriment. All of God’s people are called to live chaste lives, each according to his state in life. Grace ABOUNDS where sin is present.

All of us in our actions, dress, and words are to constantly exhibit modesty. We are to avoid the near occasion of sin by avoiding pornography, suggestive movies, novels, and TV shows, lewd friendships and dirty jokes.  When you look for trouble, guess what? You find it! We must train ourselves to discipline our eyes (the window to our souls), minds, hearts and wills. This is not an option; it is one necessary path to heaven. Its not supposed to be easy; it’s a cross!

The Tenth Commandment:

You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods. “Nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.” 1: Cor: 6: 9

“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust * consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is their will your heart be also. “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. Mt: 6: 19- 21, 24

This is an easy Commandment to understand, but difficult to live. If it isn’t yours, don’t be consumed with desire for it. If God wishes you to acquire more, He shall guide you to it. We can serve only one master, and it had better be God. This is less a prohibition on improving one’s state in life, than a serious warning that God’s, and therefore our priorities must be: God, family then, and only then, career. A desire to gain more, simply to “keep up with or surpass the Jones,” is an excuse, not a valid reason. If you adhere to these rules and still acquire wealth, count it as a blessing from God, and give Him thanks.

“Envy is a capital sin. It refers to sadness at the sight of another’ sin. When it wishes grave harm to a neighbor, it is a mortal sin.” CCC 2539  “Vices can be classified according to the virtues they oppose, or also be linked to the capital sins which Christian experience has distinguished, following St. John Cassian and St. Gregory the Great. They are called “capital” because they engender other sins, other vices. They are pride, avarice, envy, wrath, lust, gluttony, and sloth or acedia. CCC 1866

One of the great risks of wealth is endangering one’s humility. Humility, coupled with an active prayer life, and a life of charity, are key’s to holiness and piety. Jesus asks: “For what does it profit a man, to gain the whole world and forfeit his life?” Mk: 8: 36

 

reposted: 5 Things most don’t know about Easter

 

5 Things You Didn’t Know About Easter

By Dr. Taylor Marshall

Alleluia. Christ is risen!!!

the-resurrection-of-christPaolo Veronese

To kick of the solemn celebration, here are “5 Things You Didn’t Know About Easter” that you can share with your friends at your next cocktail party:

  1. 5 Turns in the Latin Mass. According to Saint Thomas Aquinas, the priest in the old Latin Mass turns around and faces the people in the pews 5 times. Why 5 times? Because Christ appears resurrected exactly 5 times in the Gospels. You can learn more about Thomas Aquinas’s liturgical theology here.
  2. Pagan Easter? Huh? Despite what the “experts” in Time, Newsweek, and the History Channel say, Easter was not a pagan holiday baptized by the Catholic Church. Here’s the whole post that I wrote on this subject using the Venerable Bede as a resource: Was Easter a Pagan Holiday? (Venerable Bede comes to the rescue!)
  3. 5 Scars. Catholic theology makes a big deal over why our Lord Jesus Christ kept his scars after the resurrection. Hint: one of the reasons has to do with those in Hell. Read the full story from Thomas Aquinas and Venerable Bede by clicking here.
  4. 2 Limbos. Traditionally there are 2 Limbos. Thomas Aquinas taught that Christ descended to the Limbus Patrum or “Limbo of the Fathers” to redeem the Old Testament saints who waited for him. The other Limbo according to Thomas Aquinas is the Limbus Infantum or “Limbo of the Infants.” You can read a prior post on Christ’s descent into Hell and how it relates to Limbo by clicking here.
  5. Christ can change his resurrected figure. It seems that Jesus (and Mary – she is also resurrected) can change their appearance for the sake of those with whom they communicate. It is written (Mark 16:12): “After that He appeared in another shape to two of them walking, as they were going into the country.”As Augustine says (De Consens. Evang. iii): “Our Lord could change His flesh so that His shape really was other than they were accustomed to behold; for, before His Passion He was transfigured on the mountain, so that His face shone like the sun.” This explains why Jesus appears differently to some people. It also explains why Mary can look like Our Lady of Guadaulpe and Our Lady of Fatima.