Another I AM a Catholic Lesson, by Patrick Miron
Are you aware friend of the “One Infallible Rule for right understanding of the Bible” Allow me to share it with you. [caps are used for emphasis, NOT shouting here]
Can, May or DOES
Verse, passage or teaching
Have the Power or Authority
Make Void; invalidate or override
Verse, passage or teaching
Were this even the slightest possibility [ITS NOT], it would render the bible as worthless to teach or learn ones faith.
How to Read the Bible [and get what it says’]
I learned something today listening to Father Mitch Pacqa [EWTN] during this mornings Mass Homily. Actually, if one were to think about it in these terms, one could easily grasp the reality and Wisdom behind the teaching.
There is a hierarchy of “Authority of Biblical Teaching” that I never gave thought too. [Shame on me]. The Four Gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are what everything else in the Bible must affirm and conform too. WHY? Because they ARE the New Covenant Teachings of Jesus Christ who is either quoted directly or who PROMISES [God can’t break His promise] to guide, protect and personally warrant these teachings.
John.14: 26 “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.” John 20:21-22 “ Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. .. John 17:15-19 “I [Jesus] do not pray that thou should take them out of the world, but that thou should keep them from the evil one. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them in the truth; thy word is truth. As thou didst send me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be consecrated in truth”
The Gospels are followed in authority by the balance of the New Testament because it testifies to the New. Current and Eternal Covenant. Then the Old Testament which points to the New Testament.
John 14: 6 “Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me. Every New Testament, especially the four Gospels, teaching that quotes Christ Himself is to be taken literally! One makes a GRAVE ERROR in not doing so; in trying to circumvent and apply mere human understanding to Devine Pronouncements, one puts their own salvation at Grave Risk. … John 1: 1 -2, 9-10 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God; The true light that enlightens every man was coming into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world knew him not.” .. FRIEND YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE IN THIS GROUP OF UNBELIEVERS!
“Judge NOT the Word of God by how it meets my own understanding; NO! Judge human thought, mere human understanding BY God’s ACTUAL WORDS!”
Isaiah 55:3, 6-11
“Incline your ear, and come to me; hear, that your soul may live; … “Seek the LORD while [AND WHERE] he may be found, call upon him while he is near; [In the manner Ordained by God Himself] … let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the LORD, that he may have mercy on him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the LORD. [Thus I have provided for you certain MEN Guided and Protected by Me to Translate My Words] For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. [Which Means NOT just anyone can understand what the Bible actually teachres] “For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven, and return not thither but water the earth, making it bring forth and sprout, giving seed [Knowledge /and Understanding] to the sower [TEACHER] and bread to the eater, [RIGHT Knowledge and Understanding to those who HEAR the Word of God] so shall my word be that goes forth from my mouth; it shall not [Meaning it BETTER NOT] return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, [IF IT IS ACCPTED, Understood and APPLIED] and prosper in the thing for which I sent it.”
Understanding The Bible: A Catholic Guide To The
Word of God from WWW. Beginning Catholic.com/understanding
Too many Catholics aren’t comfortable reading and understanding the Bible.
Let’s look at the most essential principles taught by the Catholic Church for reading and interpreting Scripture.
For a strong faith, it’s important to know this!
The Bible is uniquely important
The Holy Bible is unmatched in importance for learning about God, his plans for us, and how he has worked through human history for our salvation.
Pope John Paul II wrote:
[Sacred Scripture] is truly divine, because it belongs to God truly and genuinely: God himself inspired it, God confirmed it, God spoke it through the sacred writers—Moses, the Prophets, the Evangelists, the Apostles—and, above all, through his Son, our only Lord, in both the Old and the New Testament.
It is true that the intensity and depth of the revelation varies [within the Bible], but there is not the least shadow of contradiction [between different parts of Scripture].
(Pope John Paul II, Apostolic Letter Patres Ecclesiae,
January 2, 1980)
Since God inspired & confirmed the Bible, we had better know how to read it correctly!
Key principles for reading Scripture
These three points are essential to a basic understanding of the bible:
God is indeed the principal author of Sacred Scripture.
God made use of specific people that wrote in a human language, and did so at a particular time and place in history.
At times we have to work carefully to determine exactly what a sacred author is asserting to be true, distinguishing that from something he’s using as an image to help us understand the truth more clearly.
We need to look at each of these points in detail…
God is the principal author of Scripture
If there is only one thing you remember about understanding the Bible, let it be this point!
To get it just right, I’ll quote from the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
God himself is the author of Sacred Scripture.
(Compendium of the Catechism, #18)
(The Compendium of the Catechism has a wonderful section on understanding the Bible within the part about Divine Revelation. You should read all of #6-24 to get a full understanding, but #18-24 are specifically about Scripture.)
God chose to reveal to us certain truths for the sake of our salvation. This message of salvation is the set of revealed truths which we call the “deposit of faith,” or Divine Revelation. The Bible is primarily concerned with telling us these truths, which are without error. God himself made sure of that.
The Second Vatican Council (Vatican II) said it well: “everything asserted by the inspired authors or sacred writers must be held to be asserted by the Holy Spirit” (Dei Verbum, #11).
Good. That’s the most essential point for reading & understanding the Bible. Now, remember that point as we look at some other details…
God made use of people to write the Bible
This is important: God did not “dictate” the Bible, word for word, to people who just wrote down his words. Instead, he did something…
He made use of specific people to write the various sacred books of the Bible. And although God gave each author special grace to aid him in this work, each author wrote in a way that was natural to him.
This is also really important for a true Catholic understanding of the Bible. We have to understand this point completely, or we risk a serious misunderstanding!
The Second Vatican Council put it this way:
In composing the sacred books, God chose men and while employed by Him they made use of their powers and abilities, so that with Him acting in them and through them, they, as true authors, consigned to writing everything and only those things which He wanted.
(Vatican II, Dei Verbum (Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation), 11)
These writers used the language of their time, and they used words and wrote in a style that reflected their own personalities and educations.
Some people get nervous when they start reading about this point—don’t be! This is important for a solid understanding of the Bible.
Let’s summarize it this way:
These men had to work with the imperfections of human language and understanding.
Despite this limitation, the Holy Spirit still used them to write the message of salvation in a way that was completely accurate.
John Paul II made this point when he addressed the Pontifical Biblical Commission in 1979:
The language of the Bible is to some degree linked to language which changed over the course of time…. But this only reaffirms the paradox of the [Christian] proclamation of revelation: …people and events at particular points in history become the bearers of an absolute and transcendent message.
(Pope John Paul II, Address, April 26, 1979)
This is really quite astonishing—God was willing to work through people to tell us his saving truth. He revealed his divine truths via historical acts, using events and people of his choosing.
And he did so using…
Human language and knowledge
God also used human language and knowledge—with all of its limitations—to tell us his eternal truths.
He conveyed things to people through words and actions that made use of the ways of speaking and thinking that were common at the time. God worked this way so it would be possible for humans to write down or pass on these eternal truths.
The people who experienced these events and received God’s divine messages either wrote them down later, or would pass them on in a reliable oral tradition that was later written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
Of course, sometimes we have to work carefully to get past the imperfections of human language and knowledge in order to see what God wanted to tell us. This is an important step for understanding the Bible!
Unlocking the original meaning
We can easily put these principles to practical use when reading Scripture.
First, learn to understand exactly what the inspired authors meant when they wrote their words. A good Catholic commentary will help explain any relevant language, concepts and cultural references. (I recommend the Navarre Bible commentary , which is outstanding in its explanations and its desire to help you see how the Church understands even the smallest details of the Bible.)
That’s an essential first step—if you don’t understand what the sacred author was saying to people in his own cultural context, in terms as they were used at the time, you won’t be able to clearly see what God is saying through him.
But don’t worry! It’s really not hard to get this right for many passages. And once again, a good commentary will do the heavy lifting for you.
And once you understand the sacred author’s actual message…
Embrace the Word of God
The whole point of reading and understanding the Bible is to encounter God, understand the revelation he has given us, and grow in faith.
So now that you’ve read a passage of Scripture and understand what the author is saying…
…take that next step—listen to God!
Scripture is a living thing, meant for people in all times & places. God speaks through it now just as much as he did when it was written.
To help our faith grow as we read Scripture, the Church gives us three important points for interpreting and understanding the Bible:
“Be especially attentive ‘to the content and unity of the whole Scripture'” (Catechism, 112). It all fits together, so don’t just look at parts in isolation.
Read the Bible within “the living Tradition of the whole Church” (Catechism, 113), since the Holy Spirit guides the Church in interpreting Scripture. Especially helpful is seeing how the Saints, Popes, and Church councils have commented on Scripture.
Pay attention to “the coherence of the truths of faith among themselves and within the whole plan of Revelation” (Catechism, 114). Like point #1, above, the entire deposit of faith forms a wonderful unity—doctrine sheds light on Scripture, and Scripture on doctrine.
Let the Bible enkindle your faith
Some people feel intimidated when they start to read Scripture.
But not you!
Now you have a solid foundation for understanding the Bible. The basic principles contained in this article will help you overcome many uncertainties people have with Scripture.
So start reading!
Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ.
Originally Posted by TroutDude
So, some ancient anonymous writers, all claiming to be channeling god, wrote a bunch of stories they borrowed from other cultures. Over the course of a few hundred years, some other men decided which of those stories really, really, fer-sure came from god-channeling.
And because you believe those old, dead men, it constitutes “proof” of the legitimacy of the bible.
REPLY by CR CARSON
You have possibly skipped or minimized some important steps (which I will highlight for emphasis). Here’s the full outline of the process:
1. We begin by treating the Bible not as an inspired text but simply as any other historical text such as the works of Homer or the accounts of war by Julius Caesar.
2. Using textual criticism, we are able to conclude that today, we have a text the accuracy of which is more certain than the accuracy of any other ancient work.
3. Next we take a look at what the Bible, still considered merely as a historical text, tells us, focusing particularly on the New Testament, and more specifically the Gospels. We examine the account contained therein of Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection.
4. Using what is in the Gospels themselves and what we find in extra-biblical writings from the early centuries, together with what we know of human nature (and what we can otherwise, from natural reason alone, know of divine nature), we conclude that Jesus was either:
a. a liar,
b. a lunatic,
c. or Lord (that is, just what he claimed to be—God).
The one thing we know he could not have been was merely a good man who was not God, since no merely good man would make the claims he made.
We are able to eliminate the possibility of his being a madman not just from what he said but from what his followers did after his death. Many critics of the Gospel accounts of the resurrection claim that Christ did not truly rise, that his followers took his body from the tomb and then proclaimed him risen from the dead. According to these critics, the resurrection was nothing more than a hoax. Devising a hoax to glorify a friend and mentor is one thing, but you do not find people dying for a hoax, at least not one from which they derive no benefit. Certainly if Christ had not risen, his disciples would not have died horrible deaths affirming the reality and truth of the resurrection. The result of this line of reasoning is that we must conclude that Jesus indeed rose from the dead. Consequently, his claims concerning himself—including his claim to be God—have credibility. He meant what he said and did what he said he would do.
5. The Bible, still only considered to be historically accurate book, records that Jesus, who is God, said he would found a Church. Both the Bible and other ancient works attest to the fact that Jesus established a Church with the rudiments of what we see in the Catholic Church today—papacy, hierarchy, priesthood, sacraments, and teaching authority.
6. Thus, beginning with the historical data alone, we conclude that Jesus founded the Catholic Church. Because of his Resurrection we have reason to take seriously his claims concerning the Church, including its authority to teach in his name. Teaching in His name and with His authority requires infallibility, and that, too, is evident from the recorded teachings of Jesus.
7. The infallible Catholic Church tells us the Bible is inspired.
Only after having been told by a properly constituted authority—that is, one established by God to assure us of the truth concerning matters of faith—that the Bible is inspired can we reasonably begin to use it as an inspired book.
The Bible, which is historically accurate, tells us that Jesus is God and that he founded a Church authorized to teach in His name. Since logic dictates that such a Church cannot teach error while doing so, we accept the Church’s infallible judgment that the Bible is not only historically reliable but also inspired.
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