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Quote Hey Patrick,

You are going to kill me and I do not blame you.  I have every email you have sent to me and I did get the question on my blog, “Why does the Priest have to consecrate the bread and wine.  Scott asked it.  So I went back to give your answer and when I did, that email is missing!!!  I am so sorry and I guess I accidentally deleted it.  Do you still have it and if so can you email it again to me?  If you do not have it already written up don’t worry with it.  Will find it elsewhere and do the best job I can depending on you to tail up what I leave out.  The question is on the last post I did.  I am so sorry.

I mean I keep your emails so I can reference back to them, and I guess this one just got caught up in the stream of those I was going through clicking on and I did not realize it.   So, so sorry.  Thank you and God Bless, SR  End Quotes

Hey Patrick,

“Why does the Priest have to consecrate the bread and wine.  Scott asked it”

Not a problem. Many-a-time I have done the same thing. Somebody ought to do something about that “computer Bogeyman”

The short answer is because that it was commanded to be by Jesus Christ.

Luke.22: 19 “And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”

John.6:57 “As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me”

1Cor.11: 23 – 25 [23] For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, [24] and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” [25] In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it in  remembrance of me.”

But the “Rest of the Story” is profound and very interesting.

“Do everything as if God did not exist and then put it all in God’s hands as if you did not exist.”

Yahweh choose Priest in the Old Testament.

Exodus 28: 1 Take unto thee also Aaron thy brother with his sons, from among the children of Israel, that they may minister to me in the priest’s office: Aaron, Nadab, and Abiu, Eleazar, and Ithamar. “

 Leviticus 5:16]And he shall make good the damage itself which he hath done, and shall add the fifth part besides, delivering it to the priest, who shall pray for him, offering the ram, and it shall be forgiven him[17] If any one sin through ignorance, and do one of those things which by the law of the Lord are forbidden, and being guilty of sin, understand his iniquity, [18] He shall offer of the flocks a ram without blemish to the priest, according to the measure and estimation of the sin: and the priest shall pray for him, because he did it ignorantly: and it shall be forgiven him”

So we see here God using his Priest to offer sacrifices to Him {God}. That is the sacred Tradition that Christ choose to follow in the New Testament.

But then we ask: Is it REALLY the Priest that makes Jesus Present in the Consecrated Host and Wine. What’s Traunsbstanuation REALLY about?

TRANSUBSTANTIATION. The complete change of the substance of bread and wine into the substance of Christ’s body and blood by a validly ordained priest during the consecration at Mass, so that only the accidents of bread and wine remain. While the faith behind the term was already believed in apostolic times, the term itself was a later development. With the Eastern Fathers before the sixth century, the favored expression was meta-ousiosis “change of being”; the Latin tradition coined the word transubstantiatio, “change of substance,” which was incorporated into the creed of the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215. The Council of Trent, in defining the “wonderful and singular conversion of the whole substance of the bread into the body, and the whole substance of the wine into the blood” of Christ, added “which conversion the Catholic Church calls transubstantiation” (Denzinger 1652). After transubstantiation, the accidents of bread and wine do not inhere in any subject or substance whatever. Yet they are not make-believe; they are sustained in existence by divine power. (Etym. Latin trans-, so as to change + substantia, substance: transubstantiatio, change of substance.)”  FATHER John A. Hardon’s Dictionary

Priest are used for the following reasons:

  1. Jesus Desires that this be so

 It is important that all understand what’s going on so, that there is a direct connection; a physical connection between God- the Priest- and us. That the Powers of God are being made manifest by His Priest for US, for OUR benefit.

Here’s what happens and it’s a Mystery inside a Mystery & a Miracle inside a Miracle.

At the very instant of the Consecration; the very instant of the/Traunsbstanuation the first of two consecutive miracles take place; the Priest actually become “another Christ” –acts in “persona Christi Capitis”; instantly followed by the second miracle; where ordinary Bread become Jesus Christ and ordinary wine become Jesus Christ; Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity; in other words the ENTIRE Jesus; Really Truly and Substanually become Present to US; For Us. This is the Mystery or all mysteries.

So the reality is that it IS the Holy Spirit; GOD who does make this happenright before our eyes.

John 20:  [24] Now Thomas, one of the twelve, who is called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. [25]The other disciples therefore said to him: We have seen the Lord. But he said to them: Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.

[26] And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them. Jesus cometh, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said: Peace be to you[27] Then he saith to Thomas: Put in thy finger hither, and see my hands; and bring hither thy hand, and put it into my side; and be not faithless, but believing.[28] Thomas answered, and said to him: My Lord, and my God

Mark 9:23  [23]And immediately the father of the boy crying out, with tears said: I do believe, Lord: help my unbelief.”  … Mt 8: 8 “ [7] And Jesus saith to him: I will come and heal him. [8] And the centurion making answer, said: Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldst enter under my roof: but only say the word, and my servant {SOUL} shall be healed. “ … Jesus does it this way specifically to TEST our faith and to Grow our Faith. Amen!

 FROM Our Catholic Catechism

1324 The Eucharist is “the source and summit of the Christian life.”134 “The other sacraments, and indeed all ecclesiastical ministries and works of the apostolate, are bound up with the Eucharist and are oriented toward it. For in the blessed Eucharist is contained the whole spiritual good of the Church, namely Christ himself, our Pasch.”135

1327 In brief, the Eucharist is the sum and summary of our faith: “Our way of thinking is attuned to the Eucharist, and the Eucharist in turn confirms our way of thinking.”

1411 Only validly ordained priests can preside at the Eucharist and consecrate the bread and the wine so that they become the Body and Blood of the Lord.

1106 Together with the anamnesis, the epiclesis is at the heart of each sacramental celebration, most especially of the Eucharist:

You ask how the bread becomes the Body of Christ, and the wine . . . the Blood of Christ I shall tell you: the Holy Spirit comes upon them and accomplishes what surpasses every word and thought . . . Let it be enough for you to understand that it is by the Holy Spiritjust as it was of the Holy Virgin and by the Holy Spirit that the Lord, through and in himself, took flesh.24

1348 All gather together. Christians come together in one place for the Eucharistic assembly. At its head is Christ himself, the principal agent of the Eucharist. He is high priest of the New Covenant; it is he himself who presides invisibly over every Eucharistic celebration. It is in representing him that the bishop or priest acting in the person of Christ the head (in persona Christi capitispresides over the assemblyspeaks after the readingsreceives the offerings, and says the Eucharistic Prayer. All have their own active parts to play in the celebration, each in his own wayreaders, those who bring up the offerings, those who give communion, and the whole people whose “Amen” manifests their participation.

In the person of Christ the Head . . .

1548 In the ecclesial service of the ordained minister, it is Christ himself who is present to his Church as Head of his Body, Shepherd of his flock, high priest of the redemptive sacrifice, Teacher of Truth. This is what the Church means by saying that the priest, by virtue of the sacrament of Holy Orders, acts in persona Christi Capitis:23

It is the same priest, Christ Jesus, whose sacred person his minister truly represents. Now the minister, by reason of the sacerdotal consecration which he has received, is truly made like to the high priest and possesses the authority to act in the power and place of the person of Christ himself (virtute ac persona ipsius Christi).24

Christ is the source of all priesthood: the priest of the old law was a figure of Christ, and the priest of the new law acts in the person of Christ.25 END QUOTES FROM THE CATECHISM OF THE RCC

God Bless you,

To Jesus THROUGH Mary

Patrick

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