Why Jesus Breathed on His Apostles GAYLE SOMERS

On Resurrection Day, Jesus breathed on His disciples, a gesture odd in itself but packed with meaning for our celebration of Pentecost Sunday.

Gospel (Read Jn 20:19-23)

Today’s Gospel tells us that Jesus surprised the disciples “on the evening of that first day of the week” by appearing in their midst. We wonder if He had to calm them down a bit, because He said, twice, “Peace be with you.”  We can imagine how startled they were. He showed them His wounds, in case they thought He was a ghost.

Then, Jesus gave the apostles a commission: “As the Father has sent Me, so I send you.” What had begun three years earlier with a call to “Follow Me” (Mt 4:19) culminated in a sending out. Their work was to be a continuation of the divine apostleship of Jesus (“apostle” means “one sent”).

If we have paid attention to the Gospel accounts of Jesus’ companionship with these men, we have seen clear indications that He intended to give the apostles authority to build His Church and do His work. We are impressed by the scope of their mission but not really surprised by it. However, after announcing His directive to them, Jesus steps out of the expected with an action that can only be described as strange: “He breathed on them and said, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit.’”

Why on earth did Jesus breathe on His apostles?

To understand this moment, so different from anything we’ve yet seen in any Gospel account, we have to go back to the beginning, to the first time divinity breathed on humanity. At Creation, “the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being” (Gen 2:7). There is no clearer image than this of God’s desire to impart His own life into man, who is made in His image and likeness.  Adam and Eve’s fall into sin robbed them (and us) of their inheritance as God’s children, but the entire story of salvation reveals God’s plan to restore and renew His life in us.  So vivid is this image of God’s breath in man that it appears again at the time of the prophet, Ezekiel.  God’s people, Israel, were in exile in Babylon; they had been ravaged by their enemies as punishment for their covenant unfaithfulness.  They represent all of us who are spiritually dead and entirely helpless.  However, in His unrelenting determination to restore His people, God says to Ezekiel (whom He called “son of man”):  “’Son of man, can these bones live?’  And I answered, ‘O LORD God, Thou knowest.’  Again He said, ‘Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD…Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live…and you shall know that I am the LORD’” (Ez 36:3-6).

When we know this Old Testament history, Jesus breathing on the apostles on Resurrection Day no longer seems so odd, does it?  In this gesture, He begins the divinization of man, always God’s intention for His children.  The renewal of humanity begins, once again, with the breath of God.  For the apostles, this unique action enabled them to truly be Jesus’ continuing presence on earth.  They will forgive or retain sins, an action reserved for Divinity.  What about the rest of us?  Will the breath of God blow on us, too?  The other readings will help answer this question.

Possible response: Father, thank You for loving us enough to share Your own breath with us—a marvel beyond description.

First Reading (Read Acts 2:1-11)

At His Ascension, Jesus told the apostles not to start on their mission of making disciples of all nations until they received “power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you” (Acts 1:8).  This helps us see that Jesus’ action of breathing on them on Resurrection Day was an initiation into the Holy Spirit, not the fullness they were meant to have.   For that, Jesus had them wait for the Jewish feast of Pentecost, nine days later.  Pentecost originally had been a harvest festival in the Jewish liturgical calendar; gradually it also became associated with a memorial celebration of God’s giving of the Law to His people at Mt. Sinai, when they had been delivered from slavery in Egypt.  The Law, or Torah, gave the people a way of life that would distinguish them from all other peoples on earth.  To seal the covenant, God actually came down on top of Mt.  Sinai, manifested in fire, smoke, thunder, an earthquake, and the loud sound of a trumpet (see Ex 19:16-19).  It was quite the fireworks show!

We need to know this history, because it helps us understand why Jesus waited until Pentecost to send the Holy Spirit on His Church.  Drawing on all the parallels with God’s visit to Mt. Sinai, the Jews gathered there in Jerusalem that day could comprehend this action as the “harvest” of God’s people, ready now, because of Jesus’ accomplished work, to receive God’s new Law of Love, to be written not on stone tablets but in the hearts of men by the Holy Spirit.  Just as God’s descent on Sinai meant the formation of Israel as a nation, the descent of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost meant the formation of Jews and Gentiles into the Church, the new Israel.

Of course, the events on Pentecost evoke the deep symbolism of wind and fire throughout the Old Testament, not just at the Mt. Sinai covenant.  At Creation, “the wind” of God (literally, God’s “breath”) hovered over the waters of the earth, ready to do God’s bidding as He brought forth life (Gen 1:2).  The “wind” of God also blew apart the waters of the Red Sea so God’s people could escape from their enemies, the Egyptians.  As for fire, recall that God first appeared to Moses, the deliverer of His people, in a fiery bush.  Also, the people had to follow a pillar of fire to make their way home to the Promised Land.

The more we know of the imagery representing God in the Old Testament, the more we understand the descent of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost as an explosion of fulfilled promises!  See that the tongues of fire rested over each of the apostles.  They will now be God’s presence in His Church, leading His people on their journey home to heaven.  To this day, the bishops of the Church, who are successors of these apostles, wear hats (mitres) in the shape of a flame of fire.  They are marked out as our pillars of fire, leading us on our pilgrim journey home to heaven.

What about the effects of all this amazing action?  The apostles were miraculously able to communicate the Gospel in the foreign tongues of the Jews assembled there.  All male Jews were required to make a yearly pilgrimage to Jerusalem for this feast; that explains why “there were devout Jews from every nation” there.  This immediately evokes the history of Babel (see Gen 11:1-9).  There human pride made a grab at heaven by building a tower up to God.  The solidarity of men (made possible by one language) was perverted to accomplish an evil end.  God broke it by confusing the one language into many.  Now, in the fullness of time, God grants the human solidarity for which man longs (because he is made for that) but which he cannot naturally achieve.  The Holy Spirit creates supernatural solidarity, represented here by all men being able to hear, in their own language, the mighty works of God.  This time, God reaches down to man rather than man trying to climb up to God.

So, now that we understand something of the background of Pentecost, we can ask whether all the rest of us who aren’t apostles will also have a share in this breath of God.  The answer is YES.  In verses not included in today’s reading, Peter answers the “what about us?” question:  “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:28).  Jesus wants to breathe on all of us and thus renew the face of the earth.

Possible response: Lord Jesus, may Your Church always live in the joy of Pentecost, in awe of Your power and presence.

Psalm (Read Ps 104:1, 24, 29-30, 31, 34)

Today’s psalm celebrates the life-giving power of God’s Spirit. Written long before the Day of Pentecost, it nevertheless summarizes both the past and the future. “If you take away their breath, they perish and return to their dust” (Ps 104:29) reminds us of the Fall, at the beginning of man’s story. Disobedience led to death:  “You are dust, and to dust you shall return” (Gen 3:19b).

“When You send forth Your Spirit, they are created, and You renew the face of the earth” (Ps 104:30) describes our celebration today. The world, weary in sin, is in dire need of refreshment and renewal. Maybe we are, too. The psalm response is the perfect Pentecost prayer: “Lord, send out Your Spirit, and renew the face of the earth.”

Possible response: The psalm is, itself, a response to our other readings. Read it again prayerfully to make it your own.

Second Reading (Read 1 Cor 12:3b-7, 12-13)

The Gospel showed us God’s desire to once again breathe His life into man.  The Book of Acts showed us that the gift of God’s breath, the Holy Spirit, entered the stream of human history on the Day of Pentecost, producing miraculous results.  In the epistle, St. Paul gives us a theological reflection on the meaning of all this history.  He explains that none of us can confess Jesus as Lord without the Holy Spirit.  Our Christian faith is, itself, a work of God’s breath, the Spirit, in us.  That Spirit gives to believers a wide variety of spiritual gifts, creating diversity of service in His Church.  However, because it is “the same God” Who produces this diversity, we are “one body.”  St. Paul’s emphasis here is on the unity created by the Holy Spirit.  Let’s consider this for a moment.

Unity is the distinguishing characteristic of the Trinity—three Persons in One.  Man, created in the image and likeness of God, is hard-wired for unity, for communion with both God and others.  Sin shattered this unity (recall the immediate fracture of Adam and Eve’s relationship with God and each other in the Garden).  Babel showed us that when men actually cobble together unity, their pride bends them towards a perverse use of it.  God’s descent on Mt. Sinai was for the purpose of forming one nation for Himself out of many tribes.  He gave them one way to worship and one law to live by.  In time, that nation fractured, and a large part of it completely disappeared.  Men cannot create unity for themselves, although their hearts long for it.  Fittingly, unity in His Church was the one thing for which Jesus prayed as He faced His Passion:  “I…pray…that they may all be one…so that the world may believe that You have sent Me” (Jn 17:20-21).

On Pentecost, God sent His breath to create supernatural unity.  It was experienced immediately among the first converts, and it is a constant manifestation of God’s breath in His Church, 2000 years later.  The life of Jesus in us, the Holy Spirit, holds us in His one Body.  Unity at last—alleluia!

Possible response: Lord Jesus, forgive me when I rebel against unity—wanting my own way, isolating myself. Let Your Spirit lead me to the unity for which my heart longs.

Gayle Somers

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Gayle Somers is a member of St. Thomas the Apostle parish in Phoenix and has been writing and leading parish Bible studies since 1996. She is the author of three bible studies, Galatians: A New Kind of Freedom Defended (Basilica Press), Genesis: God and His Creation and Genesis: God and His Family (Emmaus Road Publishing). Gayle and her husband Gary reside in Phoenix and have three grown children.

Pentecost Sunday: The Birth of the Universal Church SHANE KAPLER

 

Pentecost is often spoken of as the “birth” of the Church. It is an apt metaphor: The Church, which you could say had been growing in utero in the persons of Mary, the Twelve, and the small community of disciples, now emerges into the world. And when she does, we can already glimpse all of the distinguishing features by which she will be known as an adult.

The Church’s most obvious feature is that she is Charismatic — she has received the Gift, the Holy Spirit, and the manifold gifts He bestows, as evidenced by the charisms of tongues and preaching. Receiving the Holy Spirit as the common Gift of the Father and the Son (Acts 2:33-36) also immediately distinguishes her as Trinitarian. She is not a political body, nor a social service, but a living Tabernacle, making pilgrimage to the Father, through the Son, in the Spirit.

The Church that the Spirit rushed upon in tongues of fire is also Marian, Apostolic, and Petrine. We find her gathered in prayer with the Mother of Jesus — the Church’s strong, silent backbone. Just as the Spirit overshadowed Mary and formed Christ within her womb, so He overshadowed the nascent community, birthing them as the Body of Christ into the world.

The Church of Pentecost is built upon the Twelve. The apostolic “office” left vacant by Judas’ defection and death had to be filled before she began her mission to the world (Acts 1:15-26). And it was Peter, designated first among Christ’s apostles (Mt 10:2; 16:17-20), who lead the Church in this first act of apostolic succession.

 

It was Peter who stood up “with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and address[ed]” the crowd (2:14). And the sermon that Peter preached that first day, showing how Jesus fulfilled the words of the Psalms and Prophets, established the Church as Scriptural — constantly reflecting upon and proclaiming God’s written word — as well as Christocentric in her reading of Scripture — every page is a revelation of the mystery of Christ. But Peter’s preaching was not an end in itself. It led the crowd to cry out, “What shall we do?” Peter’s response is that they must, “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (2:37-39).

The Church is not just Scriptural but Sacramental.

Even though all who received baptism that day were Jews, the fact that they had traveled to Jerusalem “from every nation under heaven” (Acts 2:5), intimated the acceptance of the Gentiles. It was a Catholic Church.

After almost two thousand years, the Church has grown and matured. Her doctrine, liturgy, and works have developed, to deepen; but for anyone who gazes closely at her “baby picture” — the Pentecost narrative — she is easy to recognize. The Catholic Church of today remains the Mystical Body of Christ, gestated throughout the earthly life of Mary and Jesus and born into the world on Pentecost.

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How God overcame my aversion to the Communion of Saints I had been raised with an emotional allergy to the very idea of the intercession of the saints. Then something happened.  BY: Ian Murphy 

How God overcame my aversion to the Communion of Saints

I had been raised with an emotional allergy to the very idea of the intercession of the saints. Then something happened.

“Communion of the Saints” in a Baptistry in Padua (José Luiz | Wikipedia)

Editor’s note: The following is an excerpt from “Dying to Live: From Agnostic to Baptist to Catholic”, a new book by Ian Murphy, published by Ignatius Press.

The new ministry position at the Catholic Diocese of Austin was wonderful… The Catholic parsonage provided the perfect atmosphere for me to complete the remainder of my thesis. The university even scored me another talk in front of a thousand students, at its annual tent revival. The remaining time in the theology program became some of the happiest months of my life.

Nevertheless, there was one spiritual concern that still required God’s healing grace before I could officially enter the Church at the 2004 Easter Vigil. Namely, I still couldn’t bring myself to believe in the Communion of the Saints. That is, I couldn’t ask for prayers from angels or saints in heaven. I had no theological issue with the practice. After all, I had no problem with asking for prayers from Christ’s followers on this side of eternity. I simply couldn’t bring myself to ask for prayer from someone on the other side.

I had been raised with an emotional allergy to the very idea of the intercession of the saints. Growing up, my dad taught me that asking the saints to pray for us was idolatry. By every possible means he instilled deep within my heart that prayers to the dead are evil.

Years later the aversion to the practice still lingered. God went to work on this issue with style.

Before landing the new job at the diocesan office, my savings had depleted rapidly. At one point, it was going to take a financial miracle for me to remain in school. My brother Sean came to my rescue. He prayed, “God, if you give me any surplus of money, it will all go straight to Ian.” The day after he said this prayer, Sean received a check in surplus of a thousand dollars.

Libby called me up with the good news. She said, “We put together a care package that includes the money. You should ask your personal guardian angel to have this package hand- delivered to you, so that the enemy can’t interfere. You’ve dealt with enough of his interference lately.”

“Okay,” I said, in a patronizing tone of voice that communicated evident disbelief.

“I’m serious, Ian. The Communion of Saints includes God’s host. Saint Michael was God’s instrument for defeating Satan and the other angels who rebelled. This is real. You already know that fallen angels are real. Why struggle with the notion of the angels who are on God’s side? You have a guardian angel,” she insisted, “ask for his help.”

“I can’t,” I said.

“Why not?”

“I just can’t. I’ve mentally filed it along with stuff that’s bad,” I explained.

She replied, “Then I’m lending you my angel. I’ve asked him to hand- deliver this money to you.”

The next day, a man was wandering about outside the college residences. He looked lost. Then he walked up to me holding a box. “I don’t suppose you’re Ian Murphy?” he asked.

“That’s me,” I said.

“Here,” he replied, handing me the package that Sean and Libby had overnighted.

After I signed for the delivery, he started walking away from me.

“Wait!” I stopped him.

“Yes?” he said.

“Who told you who I was?” I questioned.

“Nobody,” he said, beginning to look confused.

I asked him, “Then how did you know it was me?”

“I . . . I don’t know. Somehow, I knew. I looked at you, and I knew. Come to think of it, there are hundreds of people around here. Wait a minute, I have no clue how this happened!” he exclaimed in bewilderment.

Confounded at the experience, I called Libby. “It was hand- delivered!”

“I know,” she said.

“No, I mean miraculously, impossibly HAND-DELIVERED!” I yelled in amazement.

“I know,” she repeated. “Welcome to a larger world. Now may I have my angel back, please?”

I thought to myself, “You mean this is real?” Even with that, I couldn’t bring myself to talk to anyone from the other side.

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Ian Murphy received his doctorate in Systematic Theology from Duquesne University. He has most recently served as an instructor for Divine Mercy University in Arlington, VA., and currently works as a full-time Catholic writer and speaker. He can found online at www.DrIanMurphy.com.

What My High-Risk Husband Has Taught Me About the Real Presence BY: CONSTANCE T. HULL (Excellent!)

 

When it became a clear that COVID-19 was spreading across the United States back in March, I didn’t initially know how to respond. My husband is immunocompromised with a rare autoimmune lung disease. He is the epitome of high-risk. As I read about the double viral pneumonia, respirators, and the deaths of thousands of people, I understandably became concerned for his safety.

By God’s grace, however, my concern was largely reasoned and not tinged with the fear that we dealt with when he was first diagnosed with Wegener’s Granulomatosis (GPA) three years ago. It was a cautious concern that led us to make preparations for quarantine in the beginning stages of the virus in the event it became widespread in our area.

After over two years of waiting, my husband’s medications finally began working a few months ago. This means he has not been in an active flare up in his lungs throughout this entire pandemic thus far. The timing was clearly from God since everything finally went quiet in January when his Rheumatologist changed the dosage on one of of his immune suppression drugs. We finally found the right combination for the time being.

As churches closed or remained open under tight restrictions in my own diocese, my husband went to two of the priests in the area to try to help them in responding to this crisis at their parishes. He explained to them that he believed God has given him a reprieve in his illness. It is a gift and he is going to serve in whatever prudent capacity he can throughout this pandemic.

 

He takes reasonable precautions, but this entire time he has repeatedly told me and those around him that he is not going to stop living his life. How does a man fearlessly continue to live his life during a pandemic that could kill him? Through a complete and total surrender to God’s will and a call for me to do the same.

Looking for supernatural faith

One of the frustrations many Catholics have had throughout this exile is a perceived lack of supernatural faith on the part of our leaders in the hierarchy. There has been an inordinate amount of attention on physical safety and only a subdued call to the spiritual life. There are many Catholics who have felt abandoned by the hierarchy in their dioceses. Many have rightly been confused as to why the body is being placed so much higher than the spiritual, when Christ Himself commands us not to fear what can kill the body, but what can kill the soul.

My husband has sought to live supernatural faith throughout this pandemic even though he knows if he contracts the virus it could kill him. He’s chosen to trust in Christ completely. His surrender to Christ in all of this has served as a witness to me, which has dispelled my own fear and doubt.

It is this type of fearless witness we are called to as Christian disciples. We are called to be prudent, but not become paralyzed by fear and hide behind locked doors. We are meant to be a light in a dark, panic-stricken world. To find innovative ways to bring the Sacraments and the Good News to the world regardless of circumstances. Our joy, peace, hope, and trust in Christ should lead the world to the love of the Most Holy Trinity, even in the face of death.

I spent a lot of time worrying about my husband’s health and his possible death when he was first diagnosed. It was utter misery. I see that same misery on the faces of my neighbors in this pandemic. Fear and panic are how the Enemy is trying to rob us of faith, hope, and charity.

The only answer to fear is a complete surrender to God’s will in love. It is love that dispels fear and darkness. This love leads to an acceptance of all that God asks of us even if it costs us everything in this life. This is because our hope is not in this world. This is not our home, so we can rest in the peace of Christ knowing that everything—even death—will bring about God’s greater glory and lead us to our eternal home.

Faith—like hope and charity—is a gift given to us by God, but we must open ourselves up to it and surrender our will to Him in order to live fully in supernatural faith trusting in His ways. We have to relinquish our desire for control, which is ultimately what drives fear, and raise our eyes to our Father trusting He knows what is best for our ultimate good, which is our sanctification. Faith is knowing God loves us, even in midst of great affliction.

The centrality of the Real Presence in the Holy Eucharist

Our primary means of sanctification is through the Sacraments. My husband has shown me how true this is, especially in his love for the the Holy Eucharist. I already know the Sacraments are the most important things in our lives, but my husband’s example goes beyond anything I could offer as a theologian. He has truly shown me that the Sacraments, especially the Holy Eucharist, are more important than the air we breathe.

My diocese began limited public celebrations of the Mass on Ascension Sunday. In the week leading up to the first public Masses, the protocols for attendance at those Masses were released. A lot of people were frustrated with the strict stipulations put in place in order to attend Mass. I myself had a brief bout of frustration with the protocols, which was fueled by momentary concern for my husband’s safety.

My husband made a very good point to me when I voiced some of my concerns. He said to me: “It doesn’t matter if our bishop asks us to hop in on one foot. We will do whatever we have to do in order to go to Mass and receive Holy Communion.” I had allowed my gaze to wander from the Real Presence of Our Lord. In so doing, I was briefly overtaken by fear and became frustrated by what are minor inconveniences in the grand scheme of things. When Sunday morning arrived, none of it mattered.

This reminder from my husband to me, that we will do whatever it takes to return to Mass, comes with considerable weight given that he is willingly accepting the risk by going back to Mass. He is showing me through his own example that the Holy Eucharist is worth everything in this life. He is willing to go to Mass despite the risks in order to receive Our Lord’s Real Presence in Holy Communion. He is a witness to the Real Presence in an age when the majority of Catholics deny this truth and have never experienced intimate union with Christ in the Holy Eucharist. No one puts their life on the line for a wafer.

I have been disheartened by the lack of supernatural faith in some corners throughout this pandemic and I have a lot of friends and family who feel the same way. I don’t mean my own priests who have sought to bring the Sacraments of Healing to the flock as much as possible and to reach out through live-stream daily Masses, Benediction, social media, and kept our parish open for private prayer 7-days-a-week.

There’s a line from the movie Braveheart that has often come to mind in the last couple of months: “Men don’t follow titles, they follow courage.” We are most able to live the cardinal virtue of fortitude when it is united to a deep, unreserved love for Christ that trusts and hopes despite the storms of this life. Fortitude and charity are linked to one another.

My husband is showing me the kind of courage that is united to a deep love of Our Lord. That kind of courage evangelizes. That kind of courage makes saints. Through his courage and God’s grace, I too am able to fix my gaze on Christ in this storm no matter what comes. There is nothing more important on this side of eternity than the Holy Eucharist.

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Constance T. Hull is a wife, mother, homeschooler, and a graduate with an M.A. in Theology with an emphasis in philosophy.  Her desire is to live the wonder so passionately preached in the works of G.K. Chesterton and to share that with her daughter and others. While you can frequently find her head inside of a great work of theology or philosophy, she considers her husband and daughter to be her greatest teachers. She is passionate about beauty, working towards holiness, the Sacraments, and all things Catholic. She is also published at The Federalist, Public Discourse, and blogs frequently at Swimming the Depths (www.swimmingthedepths.com).

A 4 part Series on Purgatory this is part 1 all of the other POST are Posted below this one… Patrick

A Series of 4 consecutive POST on the topic of Purgatory (explained and Justified).

This is Part 1 of 4

 Introduction:

        About a year ago I posted an article on the evidence of Purgatory. Below are two unanswered replies to “Anonymous”, who despite his (I’ll assume”) rather pithy remarks deserves a full answer. So now that a friend has taught me how to look at my comments; I felt an obligation to respond to him.

May God be with us,

Patrick

        Here friends was the catalyst for this document:

 In reply to working4christtwo.

Last word on your condescending and erratic response. (Actually IMO, it was neither by intent or objectively) No ONE is perfect- even into/unto death; that’s the entire point of God’s perfect plan of mankind’s sin redemption through his Son. Why would ‘we’ have go go through a ‘weigh-station’; particulaty when in the Gospels it is very clear- specifically in Romans, that ALL fall short of the Glory. Christ’s sacrificial atonement on the cross is sufficient for all: all who are part of the elect. We are born sinners and die as sinners; albeit ones whom have died that are true believers are justified by faith. A group I am in just completed Hebrews. I would urge you to read- and do so carefully. It is a literal guidebook ( written by Paul most believe) to unshackle oneself from the legalisms of that day, but definitely still pertinent and reliable. All of the historical and current traditions of Catholicism are grounded in works, not true faith. – Indulgences, cantation of the same prayer repeatedly, treating Mary as deity, and yes purgatory.

Christ exclaimed, I did not come to judge…John 3:17. ( Don’t worry, we will be judged- I know that). Incidentally, I noticed you referenced books out of the Old Testament, not New. Any reason? The New Testament is identical for all strands of Protestants and Catholics.

 

In reply to working4christtwo.

Find what next to the word Bible..? Where is the scriptural reference/validation. It’s a tradition, is what Catholicism falls back upon. Man-made history/tradition doesn’t cut it.

 

A brief explanation seems prudent here: Because Protestants are God-prohibited from right understanding of the bible, it is of little surprise that they do not use all of it; but rather craft opinions based on only what limited human knowledge can attain to and articulate. Pjm. when first asked where is the bible evidence of purgatory; I was unsure that the non-word- specific references that do exist; do evidence this church teaching would suffice; so I hoped to make the point that not every Theological term used and applied in present times even existed , nearly 2,000years ago when the bible was fully authored.(By the end of the first century). Hence in metaphorical language I suggested that the term “purgatory” could be found adjacent to the term “bible”; neither of which appear in the Bible; yet clearly, and logically do exist. Because of my lack of specificity; anonymous missed the point I had hoped to make. 

 

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Catholics say Purgatory exist; while Protestants say “it doesn’t” … One of us is right; who will it be?

“Actions always do have consequences” is a necessary backdrop for this discussion exchange.

  1. Sin and its nature

Sin is an offense against God; always with consequences, and can be even a direct attack On God’s Sovereignty.  It is a grave-abuse of humanities freewill. All sin also has a hidden nature; either not known; or perhaps because they assume (in error) that the Love and Mercy of God covers that contingency in their over -all scheme of how God is dictated too, to save them? Theologians term it “The Temporal Punishment all sin accrues.”

God’s Nature demands in “Justice” that there be two broad categories of sin.

  1. God and his ESSENTIAL nature

For example: God cannot “Judge” someone who steals a candy bar from Walmart “just to do it”; and someone choosing to have an abortion; or an adulterous affair as being In “Justice” equal in the punishment each act; that each choice- incurs.

The Nature of God

We can ask if being “fair” and being “Just” are good things.

Answer: Of course they are; thus we are able to know, that in an absolute sense God MUST BE both “fair and Just,” and this constitutes the second foundational premise for, in an absolute sense; why Purgatory is an absolute necessity due to man’s freewill and God’s Necessary Fairness and Divine Justice.

 

The nature of God can be best understood by the revelation of the Father that Jesus of Nazareth unfolded in his manifold teachings and in his superb life in the flesh. (1 Peter 1: 16)[16] Because it is written: You shall be holy, for I am holy. (Eph. 4: 1) “[4] As he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and unspotted in his sight in charity.” (Mt. 5: 48) “[48] Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect.”

 

We are ”children of God” (Luke 20:36) “[36] Neither can they die any more: for they are equal to the angels, and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.” (Our Rational Souls are eternal), becomes the third plank in God’s rationale for Purgatory….There is an after- life; a life of eternity.

 

God’s primal perfection consists in the inherent perfection of the goodness of his divine nature. And God’s attributes of love, truth, beauty, “Justice” and goodness are definitive of the meaning of all such terms.

 

Attributes”. God is eternal in that in essence, life, and action he is altogether beyond temporal limits and relations. He has neither beginning, nor end, nor duration by way of sequence or succession of moments. There is no past or future for God — but only an eternal present.”
God in Catholicism – Wikipedia

 

“GOD. The one absolutely and infinitely perfect spirit who is the Creator of all. In the definition of the First Vatican Council, fifteen internal attributes of God are affirmed, besides his role as Creator of the universe: “The holy, Catholic, apostolic Roman Church believes and professes that there is one true, living God, the Creator and Lord of heaven and earth. He is almighty, eternal, beyond measure, incomprehensible, and infinite in intellect, will and in every perfection. Since He is one unique spiritual substance, entirely simple and unchangeable, He must be declared really and essentially distinct from the world, perfectly happy in Himself and by his very nature, and inexpressibly exalted over all things that exist or can be conceived other than Himself” (Denzinger 3001).

Reflecting on the nature of God, theology has variously identified what may be called his metaphysical essence, i.e., what is God. It is commonly said to be his self-subsistence. God is Being Itself. In God essence and existence coincide. He is the Being who cannot not exist. God alone must be. All other beings exist only because of the will of God.” Father John A. Hardon’s Catholic Dictionary

 

For our present discussion, May I suggest a simpler; perhaps a more -direct -definition which we can use: “GOD IS ALL GOOD THINGS PERFECTED” …

 

BY which I mean to teach that God can only-desire, create, and do “good things,” although His “Just” Nature does permit evil, with its subsequent consequences, either in this life or the next, or both as an exercise on humanities freewill.

 

          Then we ask: “Are being “Fair” and “Just” … “Good Things.” Obviously the reply is “Yes!” Thus we can know that God can only do good things (but He can and does permit evil as a freewill-moral choice of humanity.) This attribute of the Divan Nature also obligates God to do -good and avoid evil as He himself has taught. (Rom. 13:4 “[4] For he is God’s minister to thee, for good. But if thou do that which is evil, fear: for he beareth not the sword in vain. For he is God’s minister: an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doth evil” … (2 Cor. 13:7-8)” [7] Now we pray God, that you may do no evil, not that we may appear approved, but that you may do that which is good, and that we may be as reprobates. [8] For we can do nothing against the truth; but for the truth.”

 

(1 Peter 3: 11) [11] “Let him decline from evil, and do good: let him seek after peace and pursue it”

 

  1. The essential nature our Soul MUST attain “pure-goodness” in order to enter into heaven.

 

(Mt. 5:48)[48] Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect.”

 

This teaching is to be rightly understood as being literal.

 

And WHY IS THAT?  … (Rev.21:7) “ [27] There shall not enter into it any thing defiled, or that worketh abomination or maketh a lie, but they that are written in the book of life of the Lamb.” From the RSV bible: (Rev. 21:7) “But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s book of life.”

 

          (***)And once again this is to be understood as be a literal instruction; which sadly has no meaning; and certainly no comprehension for our Brethren in the wide and diverse Protestant Community; who, not understanding neither the natures of Sin or the NECESSARY Justice of God; presume and assume in error that it has no application to them. But dear friends in Christ; by His very “Perfect-Nature”; being Himself-God, in an absolute sense God HAS TO BE “Just and Fair.” … Far be it from me, to dictate what God WILL-DO, except to say, we can be assured that God cannot violate His very Nature; all Souls must be literally perfect to enter into the Beatific Vision. How God accomplishes that is God’s decision. So I will not be presumptive, and claim that what I articulate for Catholics necessarily also applies to protestants, nor to those with no-Christian affiliation; though in my personal opinion; I suspect that the debt of Temporal Punishment; which is applicable to “all sin: actually does mean, ”ALL SINS.” (1John 1:8-9)

(1 Timothy 2: 3-4) “[3] For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour, [4] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth. [5] For there is one God, and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus:

          The critical question is: Will God permit the wide and diverse Protestant Community and their various teachings on “Substitutional-Atonement” to be “sufficient” for their Salvation; which the “Church” holds that it is beyond Her “pay-grade” to make a “judgment call on this issue.” (From our Catechism: CCC1260; 846;847 & 848).

1260 “Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, (1 Tim. 2: 3-4)  which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery.” Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity

“Outside the Church there is no salvation”

846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation.337

848 “Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men.”

So perhaps a more relative question might be something along the line of: Does or will God accept the dictates of the Protestants; some 1,500 years after His church had been established and charged with the exclusive responsibility of teaching His Truths; in their very fullness? And again we don’t know; BUT can know that it is not thee ”slam-dunk” assured salvation “as advertised”. THAT “only God knows.” … But is it prudent to wait until you die to find out?  … I thank God that I and my family don’t have to make that call. Amen

 

(Mt. 16:18-19)” [18] And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.”

 

(Mt. 28{18-20)” [18] And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. [19] Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.”

 

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Part 2 (The Goal of all humanity”) …well maybe not “all”

 “HEAVEN. The place and condition of perfect supernatural happiness. This happiness consists essentially in the immediate vision and love of God, and secondarily in the knowledge, love, and enjoyment of creatures. Until the final resurrection, except for Christ and his Mother, only the souls of the just are in heaven. After the last day, the just will be in heaven in body and soul. Although the same God will be seen by all and enjoyed by all, not everyone will have the same degree of happiness. The depth of beatitude will depend on the measure of God’s grace with which a person dies, and this in turn will be greatly conditioned by the merits that one earns during life on earth. Heaven is eternal because it will never cease. It is continuous because its joys never stop. It is communal because the happiness is shared with the angels and saints and the company of those who were known and loved on earth.” Father John A. Hardon’s Catholic Dictionary

Why Protestants are simply unable; that is to say are actually restricted; inhibited from the Bibles right understanding”

I share this in charity, with not the least bit of animosity. I cannot envision a logical evidenced reply; though I’m open to one. The fact is that there are literally thousands of Differing Protestant “churches”; each individually-self-identified; as is the Roman Catholic Church, by its OWN-set of Faith beliefs now some 2,000 years old, which are God given (Mt. 10:1-8; Mt. 16:15-19; John 17:16-21; Eph. 4:1-5- Mt 28:18-20); and God protected (John 17:16-21). Each of which is clearly expressed; and author intended to be direct and exclusive to and through the Apostles and by necessity their successors…. (Compare Mt 10:1-8 to Mt. 28-18-20). It is precisely not being able to see the direct and exclusivity of such passages, and, oh, so many more; that highlights the manmade births of thousands of separate and differing sets of Faith beliefs in Protestant- Christianity. While Protestants in ever-growing numbers keep searching for God’s single set of Truths; truth long and very long in the deposit of Faith of Catholics; who retain and alone can share the Fullness of God’s directly and exclusively entrusted Faith. That friends is historical and biblical evidenced facts.

(Mt. 28:18-20).  [18] And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. [19] Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.

 

(DOUAY Bible explanation) [18] “All power”: See here the warrant and commission of the apostles and their successors, the bishops and pastors of Christ’s church. He received from his Father all power in heaven and in earth: and in virtue of this power, he sends them (even as his Father sent him, St. John 20. 21) to teach and disciple, not one, but all nations; and instruct them in all truths: and that he may assist them effectually in the execution of this commission, he promises to be with them, not for three or four hundred years only, but all days, even to the consummation of the world. How then could the Catholic Church ever go astray; having always with her pastors, as is here promised, Christ himself, who is the way, the truth, and the life. St. John 14.

          But that does yet address the “WHY” non-Catholic Christians are prohibited from ”Right Understanding of God’s Bible.”

And being God’s Bible (1st Tim.3:16-17)  “[16] All scripture, (IS) inspired of God, (AND) is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice, [17] That the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work.” … Is the first evidence.

The Magisterium of the Catholic Church

http://www.catholicessentials.net/magisterium.htm (This site is far more extensive and informative then I share here. Pjm)

Defined as “the Church’s divinely appointed authority to teach the truths of religion”. In other words, Our Lord gave His Church the authority to teach the faithful about what is expected of them, and that is what the Church has done consistently from the start.

The Magisterium of Catholic Church teaches the faithful in two ways;

1) Solemn Magisterium: is Church teaching which is used only rarely by formal and authentic definitions of councils or Popes. This includes dogmatic definitions by councils or Popes teaching “ex cathedra” (Infallible)
2) Ordinary Magisterium: this second form of Church teaching is continually exercised by the Church especially in her universal practices connected with faith and morals, in the unanimous consent of the Fathers and theologians, in the decisions of the Roman Congregations concerning faith and morals, in the common sense of the Faithful, and various historical documents, in which the faith is declared.

(Definitions from A Catholic Dictionary, 1951) See below for Scripture and Church teaching on the Magisterium of the Church.
References In Scripture to the Magisterium of the Church:

  • “And the apostles and ancients assembled to consider of this matter. And when there had been much disputing, Peter, rising up, said to them: Men, brethren, you know, that in former days God made choice among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, who knoweth the hearts, gave testimony, giving unto them the Holy Ghost, as well as to us” Acts 15:6-8.
  • And later in the same chapter: “For it hath seemed good to the Holy Ghost and to us…” Acts 15:28
  • “Go ye into the whole world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.” Matthew 16:1

Catholic Church Teaching on the Solemn and Ordinary Magisterium of the Church: (Inserted by Pjm… The Magisterium is the fulfillment of John 19: 16-21)

(Mt. 16: [26] But the Paraclete, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you. [27] Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, do I give unto you. Let not your heart be troubled,….  (THIS IS THE CHAPTER WHERE JESUS APPPOINTS PETER TO HEAD HIS NEW CHURCH AND GIVES TO HIM ALL OF THE KEY’S TO HEAVENLY ACCESS..Pjm)

(DOUAY Catholic Bible explanation) [26] “Teach you all things”: Here the Holy Ghost is promised to the apostles and their successors, particularly, in order to teach them all truth, and to preserve them from error.”

  • “All those things are to be believed by divine and Catholic faith whi
  • ch are contained in the written Word of God or in Tradition, and which are proposed by the Church, either in solemn judgment or in its ordinary and universal teaching office, as divinely revealed truths which must be believed.” (First Vatican Council, 1870)
  • “For this reason the Fathers of the Vatican Council laid down nothing new, but followed divine revelation and the acknowledged and invariable teaching of the Church as to the very nature of faith, when they decreed as follows: “All those things are to be believed by divine and Catholic faith which are contained in the written or unwritten word of God, and which are pro posed by the Church as divinely revealed, either by a solemn definition or in the exercise of its ordinary and universal Magisterium” (Sess. iii., cap. 3)” Encyclical On the Unity of the Church by Pope Leo XIII, 1896
  • “But for Catholics nothing will remove the authority of the second Council of Nicea, where it condemns those “who dare, after the impious fashion of heretics, to deride the ecclesiastical traditions, to invent novelties of some kind…or endeavor by malice or craft to overthrow any one of the legitimate traditions of the Catholic Church”; nor that of the declaration of the fourth Council of Constantinople: “We therefore profess to preserve and guard the rules bequeathed to the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, by the Holy and most illustrious Apostles, by the orthodox Councils, both general and local, and by everyone of those divine interpreters, the Fathers and Doctors of the Church.” Wherefore the Roman Pontiffs, Pius IV and Pius IX, ordered the insertion in the profession of faith of the following declaration: “I most firmly admit and embrace the apostolic and ecclesiastical traditions and other observances and constitutions of the Church.” Encyclical On the Doctrine of the Modernists by Pope Pius X, 1907

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          Friends; and despite our difference WE ARE, friends; the Bible is a Catholic Book. It existed for about 1,500 years prior to the Protestant “Reformation.” And existed in its current book-form, of 73 books (46 OT & 27 NT) for about 1,100 years prior to the Reformation (So where do Protestant get their “authority” to tell the direct-decedents of the Authors; all of whom are Catholics, including five Apostles; Matthew, John, Paul, James and of course Peter, of the Catholic New Testament who are alone; directly and exclusively, Jesus Christ Personally assured to be enabled to teach the FULLNESS of His Truth?) …  PLEASE READ THIS AS THE AUTHOR INTENDED IT TO BE; DIRECLY TO AND EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE APOSTLES AND THEIR BY ABSOLUTE NECESSITY; SUCCESSORS: (John 17: 16-21)

(Revelation 22: 19-20)” [19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from these things that are written in this book. [20] He that giveth testimony of these things, saith, Surely I come quickly: Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.”

(Jesus IS  GOD; what Jesus here, in his human nature is praying, hence is an already fully accomplished fact.[16] They are not of the world, as I also am not of the world. [17] Sanctify them in truth. Thy word is truth. [18] As thou hast sent me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. (THIS IS TO BE UNDERSOOD AS A LITERAL FACT) [19] And for them do I sanctify myself, (Meaning that Jesus here is offering to the Father Himself as the Personal Warranty of ALL His Churches teachings on Faith and Morals that align with His provided Infallibly inspired Catholic-Magisterium). that they also may (means here “will be”)  be sanctified in truth.  (To be understood in PRESENT TENSE as “ARE”) [20] And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me;[21] That they all may be one, as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee; that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”

          Friends, the above clearly articulates and evidences the Catholic “position” as exclusive and rightful heirs to as the only holder of the “Key’s to Heaven’s Gate” (singular: “My Church,” (Mt. 16:18)which means only and precisely that. So what then is the Protestant “authority” to assume a right to override the very direct and exclusive (the Fact that one doesn’t agree with its exclusivity; does not change its factual-truth. Are YOU REALLY going to tell Jesus at the immediate judgement; ahhh Jesus I thought it meant everyone? REALLY?

(1 Tim. 1: 7-8) “[7] Desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither the things they say, nor whereof they affirm. [8] But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully”

 

(2 Peter 1: 19-20) “[19] And we have the more firm prophetical word: whereunto you do well to attend, as to a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: [20] Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation.” (In other words if it does not fully align with the Faith and Moral teachings of the Catholics Magisterium; simply put: It’s wrong!)

 

I didn’t intend to advertise my book, but when I was doing my research, it POPPED up, so I’m leaving the information for it here.

Catholic & Christian: A Book of Essential Catholic Catechesis

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“So without purgatory, untold numbers of souls will be unable to attain heaven as … Any soul that dies without unconfessed and unforgiven mortal sin is imperfect …”

Patrick Miron –

 

          This seems to be an appropriate time and place to at least briefly explain the rationale; and evidence the about the above partial quote from  my book.

 

SOUL. The spiritual immortal part in human beings that animates their body. Though a substance in itself, the soul is naturally ordained toward a body; separated, it is an “incomplete” substance. The soul has no parts, it is therefore simple, but it is not without accidents. The faculties are its proper accidents. Every experience adds to its accidental form. It is individually created for each person by God and infused into the body at the time of human insemination. It is moreover created in respect to the body it will inform, so that the substance of bodily features and of mental characteristics insofar as they depend on organic functions is safeguarded. As a simple and spiritual substance, the soul cannot die. Yet it is not the total human nature, since a human person is composed of body animated by the soul. In philosophy, animals and plants are also said to have souls, which operate as sensitive and vegetative principles of life. Unlike the human spirit, these souls are perishable. The rational soul contains all the powers of the two other souls and is the origin of the sensitive and vegetative functions in the human being” Father John A Hardon’s Catholic Dictionary

For those bible experts out there; the fact that the bible was fully authored nearly 2,000 years ago poses challenges; with our Theologians, doing their jobs; and invent new words; new term in order to clarify, and to define complex, and often, profound concept-teachings. That’s the story behind purgatory. And I’m going to brief in the extreme here, as I will cover this late in greater deatial. But just to egg-on our thinking; I will OFFER here a brief summary:

  1. God is “good”; in fact He is so good that God is “Perfect.”
  2. God does not send any Soul either to hell, or to heaven. Those friend are our individual life-choices manifested.
  3. God to be “good” (Perfectly) MUST then be “Fair and Just”
  4. (1 John 1:8-9) teaches that everyone * (*Jesus and Mary exempted here)are sinners; which means our Souls are in need of sin-forgiveness; BUT ALSO GUILT-FORGIVENESS; which Theologians term “The Temporal Punishment”; that GOD Himself attaches to the “backside of sin- forgiveness.” And because this places the Guilt-ridden- Soul in God’s exclusive “rights and wrongs” bookkeeping; only God knows (**) what kind of payments He is willing to accept; the amount of the debt; and the payments for the debt.

 

That said; in (Mt. 16:18-19);(**) Jesus clearly, specifically, directly and exclusively (read and assume that the author KNEW what he wanted to say; and was Holy Spirit Inspired in the language he choose to do so,) to empower His New One True Faith and Church. “MY Church” is notably singular; AND as ALL “churches are self-identified by their freely (actually not so “free”; as all actions do have consequences) chosen and individualized one set of faith beliefs for each and every “church.” The Catholic Church included; but notably with the one foundationally the same Faith for 2,000 years; taught and given it to it by Jesus. For example the Catholic-Mass Format used even today dates with historical evidence back to the 2nd. Century; and was itself based on early 1st. Century practices (Acts 2:42; Lk. 24: 35) … Let me get back on track here: So In (Mt.16:19) GOD (heaven) is the ”pseudonym” actually used; PROMISES that He God WILL accept whatever laws, rules; practices  that the Church imposes or delates; or changes; PERIOD! Of note for those who may not know it: Catholic “practices are changeable; while Catholic Doctrines Are Not.

 

So the Church through the Power and the Authority of the only Key’s to heaven gate; NO, I am not saying here that ONLY Catholics get to heaven; though we certainly have advantages not available (except for the Orthodox churches; that too have the Seven Sacraments (the INSIDE track to heaven) ”validly” but not licitly; whereas the Catholic Church has them both validly and licitly and ALONE can share the Fullness of God’s “Good news;” making it GREAT News!

 

With the Power of the Key’s the CC teaches that God will accept works of charity; Prayer, Praise; Worship and Adoration as payments; BUT ONLY God knows the amount of our individual debt; and how much payment He is accepting and applying to that secret debt, as we try to repay the debt in full BEFORE dying. The Catholic Church though is empowered also to engage indulgences as payment; a separate topic. Sacramental Confession (John 20:19-23) and Jesus Himself in the Eucharist are INCREDIBLE-grace-opportunity-advantages.

 

  1. So there are in an absolute sense three (21/5) choices God has when we die:
  2. If our Soul is PERFECT, no son and no debt for sin; off to heaven we go
  3. If we die with Mortal sin;(1 John 5:16-17) unconfessed; without true/ remorse ;we just purchased the ticket for eternal Hell
  4. And then there are those who dies with unconfessed / unforgiven Venial sins; OR perhaps no sin but we still have the God-imposed Debt all sin accrue; what happens to them? They absolutely cannot enter into heaven; as ONLY truly “perfect” Souls get past “Peter.” … That was the quandary that forced God (who HAS to be Just and fair) to create; not a “second chance”; but a “Fair; a Just way that AFTER making FULL payment; will enter into God’s eternal embrace. … Personally I think of Purgatory as a Sorta “Soul Wash.”

 

Each of these IS teaching about Purgatory:

Rev.21: 27 “But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s book of life.”

Matt.5:26 “truly, I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny.”

Matt.5: 48 “You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

1 John: 3:3[3] And every one that hath this hope in him, sanctifieth himself, as he also is holy. “

 

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This IS Part 3 of  ??????>? “We go on for those who have a head with ears attached and that actually are able to hear; (Wich means to correctly understand the teaching).

 

For five centuries now there have been countless debates (which had NOT existed for the prior 1,500 YEARS) on the existence of (and for that matter a need for) the existence of Purgatory. Having now shared the ground work for the older than 2,000 year Old Catholic Doctrine; I hope to now share

(1) The “nature and effects of sin”

 (2) Explain God’s Rationale for creating Purgatory

(3) And share; when understood the biblical evidence for it’s necessary

  • God’s Premise for Purgatory:

         Purgatory exist because of the very nature of sin. Not all sins are of equal in amounts the amounts of guilt they incur. And venial (lesser sins) won’t send a Soul to hell; while death with even ONE- mortal sin (and the name itself implies); that is unconfessed; unremitted and not even regretted, will. …WHAT! “one lousy sin” can send me to hell?!

(Rev.21:27)” But nothing unclean shall enter it, (Heaven) nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s book of life.”

Here’s THE translation: God speaking: Cf. I’m Perfect therefore nothing unperfected will enter into my presence. Cf. (2 Tim. 3:17; Mt. 5:48)

  • What sin is, what its effects are and its two basic natures: (1 Jn. 1: 8-1 & 1 Jn. 5:16-17 & John 20:19-23)

[16] He that knoweth his brother to sin a sin which is not to death, let him ask, and life shall be given to him, who sinneth not to death. There is a sin unto death: for that I say not that any man ask. [17] All iniquity is sin. And there is a sin unto death

So if you consider yourself a “Christian”; consider yourself warned. “Death” here of course means a spiritual; an eternal death of your Soul; which YOU have freely chosen to place in danger of Hell. Why-so? Because All mortal sins are so grievous to our Perfect-God; that they create a breech; a schism between you and God until and unless with True Contrition; one turns back to God, and seek His forgiveness through HIS way of sin forgiveness; Sacramental Confession. 

Douay Catholic Bible  with Commentary: (2 Tim. 3:16-17) “[16] All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice[17] That the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work.”

 

(D B C) [16] All scripture,”: Every part of divine scripture is certainly profitable for all these ends. But, if we would have the whole rule of Christian faith and practice, we must not be content with those Scriptures, which Timothy knew from his infancy, that is, with the Old Testament alone: nor yet with the New Testament, without taking along with it the traditions of the apostles, and the interpretation of the church, to which the apostles delivered both the book, and the true meaning of it.” End of quotes

 

(John 20:19-23)” [19] Now when it was late that same day, the first of the week, and the doors were shut, where the disciples were gathered together, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them: Peace be to you[20] And when he had said this, he shewed them his hands and his side. The disciples therefore were glad, when they saw the Lord. [21] He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you. [22] When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained”

 

(D B C) [19] “The doors were shut”: The same power which could bring Christ’s whole body, entire in all its dimensions, through the doors, can without the least question make the same body really present in the sacrament; though both the one and the other be above our comprehension.

And guess what: Here it is from the King James Bible: “23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained” …. So use your own logic; what does THIS ACTUALLY-as in “literally” SAY; and WHO is saying it?….

Folk’s; ahhhh, this IS GOD speaking! Do you suppose that this is just accidently included in the bible?

          My kid sister who I loved dearly was an ? I LOVE YOU Jesus; THANK YOU Jesus Christian (which I greatly admired), who died about 2 years ago now. On a short-trip with her she asked me if “I was saved?”… I told her “Yes and I still in the process of being saved…   The she said “what the heck does that mean?” and I replied “Salvation is a life-long-process…. She was just quiet so I asked her if she had a bible handy. … She replied yes in the glovebox. So I got it out and it was KJB of the NT only; which was all that I was looking for. … I read The above John 20:23 passage to her and she asked me to read it again (obviously not aware of it; or so it seems to me.) So I read it to her a SECOND TIME AND REMINED HER IT WAS FROM HER KJB…. Then I asked her what she thought it meant; she replied: “I don’t know but it doesn’t mean what it said!” … Then without pause; she went on to tell me she didn’t want to talk anymore about religion. (I just smiled and said a prayer for her.)  … And if you’re a protestant; do ya think God will accept that answer?(Would you?)

Protestants often hold and teach that Christ has ALREADY done “everything”(Sufficient/ Substituted- Atonement”) needed for their salvation once “they have received Christ as their “personal Savior.”  … Can one’s salvation really be that simple? That easy?Really?

          Sin falls into 2 categories: Mortal and Venial [greater and lesser] (1 John 5:16-17) ; and ALL sins accrue a concealed  that God Himself applies to All sins; because (1) all sins have a public nature; that is affect others besides the sinner; and All sins are an affront upon God’s very goodness; God basic Nature.)  This is due to the “public nature” of all sin, meaning that all sins affect- others besides the sinner themselves; hence God Himself imposes and penalty that must be repaid “I full” in order for that Soul to enter into heaven.

The terms mortal, deadly, grave, and serious applied to sin are synonyms, each with a slightly different implication. Mortal and deadly focus on the effects in the sinner, namely deprivation of the state of friendship with God; grave and serious refer to the importance of the matter in which a person offends God. But the Church never distinguishes among these terms as though they represented different kinds of sins. There is only one recognized correlative to mortal sin, and that is venial sin, which offends against God but does not cause the loss of one’s state of grace. (Etym. Latin mors, death.) Father John A, Hardon’s Catholic Dictionary

(1 John 5: 16-17) “[16] He that knoweth his brother to sin a sin which is not to death, let him ask, and life shall be given to him, who sinneth not to death. There is a sin unto death: for that I say not that any man ask. [17] All iniquity is sin. And there is a sin unto death. (Does not mean only one specific sin: for example, both slander which ruins a person’s reputation and Murder are both Mortal sins;  an-on-to-spiritual death sins. And there are very many others as well.

Because God directly imposes this guilt for sins-debt; God alone knows the amount of debt He will REQUIRE to pay that debt.   This debt is repaid with as Christ as the comptroller, by charity, prayers, sacrifices and Indulgences [a separate topic] … This is biblically grounded.

(Matthew 16:18- 19) “[18] And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.”

“To bind and to loose” were common Jewish-Law-terms; enforceable in Jewish courts of Law. There are two definitions: (1)  Unlimited Powers of Governance to make and enforce, and void Laws (2) The Power to forgive mans repented & Confessed sons (John 20:19-23)”…..  [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.”

          The point being that the CC does have the God given; God assured Powers to mandate way’s to repay this debt while still on earth: charity; prayers; sacrifices and indulgences (which is a separate topic.”) The thing is with just one exception dealing with indulgences; only God knowns even by these works; how much of the debt has been repaid.

 

God’s rationale for creating Purgatory is based on Love, Mercy and the Divine Nature that MUST include Fairness and Justice.

          “Why a “MUST-include” is inescapable”

Genesis 1:26-27 teaches that God choose to “Create us in his own image”John 4:23-24 teaches us “that God is a Spirit” and all must worship him ‘in spirit and in TRUTH.’ ”

So how does physical, mortal man; emulate our Eternal-Spiritual God?

This is accomplished by one the most astonishing teaching in the bible (which poor translation have Bastardized: Douay Catholic Bible which even in English predates the JKB by about 10 years if my memory serves?)

Genesis2:6-7 [6] But a spring rose out of the earth, watering all the surface of the earth. [7] And the Lord God formed man of the slime of the earth: and breathed into his face the breath of life, and man became a living soul.” Wow! Man emulates our God because our Human Souls similar to our GOD are immortal and rational.

So why is humanity “rational”? = a mind, intellect and a freewill which are permanently attached to all human Souls. We alone in the created universe can and are alone enabled to Know GOD (even through the universe by itself,) which exist precisely and exclusively for this very reason. If, and to the extent that we cooperate with God’s grace, we can then know Him in other ways that are beneficial to our personal salvation. We will each be judged on the extent of cooperation Offered BY US with regard to God’s OFFER of grace, (which varies somewhat for every human Soul); which in turn ultimately determines our salvation. The greater one’s acceptance of grace; the more grace we accept and rightly apply; the greater are the odds of one’s personal salvation.

Someone who steals a candy-bar from Walmart (for kicks); cannot be judged by GOD with the same penalty as someone who commits adultery; or kills an innocent baby in the womb. As the NORM; stealing a candy can’t send one to hell; the other two offences Do hold that possibility.

So consider and ponder this:

Soul (A) steal the candy bar, unrepentant; unconfessed (John19:29:23); unforgiven

Soul (B) also dies with the same conditions in place

          Soul (A) has a small-sin on his Soul and hence is “imperfect” and nothing imperfect can get into heaven

          Soul (B) though has a grievous-Mortal sin on his Soul and has thus chosen for himself Eternal-Hell

So let’s assume Protestants here are correct and that ONLY Heaven and Hell exist (thank God that their not)… What happens to Soul (A).(and NO, God doesn’t let him squeak-by (He Can’t and Still BE our “Perfect God”) Which does explain God’s… Why I Did It question.

          Before closing out this section; allow me to address WHY Protestants Can’ t( and this IS the correct word here),  understand what they are reading.

(Matt. 11: 15) “ [15] He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

((Matt. 13:43) “ [43] Then shall the just shine as the sun, in the kingdom of their Father. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

(Mark 4: 9) “[9] And he said: He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

(Mark 7:16) [“16] If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.”

(Luke 8:8) “[8] And other some fell upon good ground; and being sprung up, yielded fruit a hundredfold. Saying these things, he cried out: He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

(Luke 14:35) “ [35] It is neither profitable for the land nor for the dunghill, but shall be cast out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

(Acts 2:14) “[14] But Peter standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and spoke to them: Ye men of Judea, and all you that dwell in Jerusalem, be this known to you, and with your ears receive my words.

(Acts 28:27) “[27] For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears have they heard heavily, and their eyes they have shut; lest perhaps they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.”

 

          If that’s not enough then permit me to add these:

(Matt. 10: parts of verses 10-34

 [10] And his disciples came and said to him: Why speakest thou to them in parables?

[11] Who answered and said to them: Because to you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven: but to them it is not given. [12] For he that hath, to him shall be given, and he shall abound: but he that hath not, from him shall be taken away that also which he hath[13] Therefore do I speak to them in parables: because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. [14] And the prophecy of Isaias is fulfilled in them, who saith: By hearing you shall hear, and shall not understand: and seeing you shall see, and shall not perceive. [15] For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears they have been dull of hearing, and their eyes they have shut: lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

[16] But blessed are your eyes, because they see, and your ears, because they hear[17] For, amen, I say to you, many prophets and just men have desired to see the things that you see, and have not seen them, and to hear the things that you hear and have not heard them.

[34] All these things Jesus spoke in parables to the multitudes: and without parables he did not speak to them. [35] That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying: I will open my mouth in parables, I will utter things hidden from the foundation of the world.”

 

          The permit to ask this question on your behalf: “Is EVERYTHING NESESSARY FOR ONES SALVATION?”

(John 20:29-31) “[29] Jesus saith to him: Because thou hast seen me, Thomas, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and have believed. [30] Many other signs also did Jesus in the sight of his disciples, which are not written in this book.[31] But these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God: and that believing, you may have life in his name.”

(John 21:24-25) “[24] This is that disciple who giveth testimony of these things, and hath written these things; and we know that his testimony is true. [25] But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written”

(John 27: 37-40) “[37] And whereas he had done so many miracles before them, they believed not in him: [38] That the saying of Isaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he said: Lord, who hath believed our hearing? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed? [39] Therefore they could not believe, because Isaias said again: [40] He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart, that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.”

 

God who can be briefly defined as “All good things perfected”

God cannot judge fairly all sins being of equal consequences: thus Mortal and Venial sin exist

Man exist so that we might freely choose to know, love, worship and serve God [Isaiah 43: 7 & 21]

God desires to save as many souls as are willing to accept His grace and OBEY Him fully Acts 28:20; Mt. 10:22 & 1st Tim. 2:4; which are the underpinning for purgatory.

Each of these DO reference Purgatory when CORRECTLY UNDERSTOOD.

Lev.22: 21 “And when any one offers a sacrifice of peace offerings to the LORD, to fulfil a vow or as a freewill offering, from the herd or from the flock, to be accepted it must be perfect; there shall be no blemish in it”

Rev.21: 27 “But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s book of life.”

Matt.5:26 “truly, I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny.”

Matt.5: 48 “You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

Heb.2:10 “For it was fitting that he, for whom and by whom all things exist, in bringing many sons to glory, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through suffering.”

1John.3: 2 – 3 “Beloved, we are God’s children now; it does not yet appear what we shall be, but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. And every one who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.”

1Cor.3: 13 – 14 “each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a

 

          WHY Purgatory?

Because having created Purgatory for the state of imperfect man countless more souls will be enabled to enter the Beatific Vision. God’s Presence

Because God is PERFECT, in order to enter into heaven, man’s soul too must either be perfect upon death, OR perfected AFTER death if the Soul dies with no unconfessed or forgiven Mortal sin. WHAT is her understanding of Mortal sin and Sacramental Confession?

1 Peter 1:16
Because it is written: You shall
 be holy, for I am holy

Matthew 5:48
Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect

(Mt. 13: 10-15) “[10] And his disciples came and said to him: Why speakest thou to them in parables? = (This term is to be rightly understood “as speaking to them in mysteries”) … [11] Who answered and said to them: Because to you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven: but to them it is not given. [12] For he that hath, to him shall be given, and he shall abound: but he that hath not, from him shall be taken away that also which he hath. [13] Therefore do I speak to them in parables: because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. [14] And the prophecy of Isaias is fulfilled in them, who saith: By hearing you shall hear, and shall not understand: and seeing you shall see, and shall not perceive. [15] For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears they have been dull of hearing, and their eyes they have shut: lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

(Mark 4: 10-12) “[10] And when he was alone, the twelve that were with him asked him the parable. (The meaning hear is “the mystery”)[11] And he said to them: To you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but to them that are without, all things are done in parables (Meaning: hidden and concealed from them): [12] That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand: lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.”

(John 12:37-40) “[37] And whereas he had done so many miracles before them, they believed not in him: [38] That the saying of Isaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he said: Lord, who hath believed our hearing? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed? [39] Therefore they could not believe, because Isaias said again: [40] He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart, that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.”

WHY Does Purgatory Exist?

(10 Because God, in order to be our “Perfect”; Fair and Just God; In an absolute sense had to create a Fair and Just; dare I say; “LITTLE-SINNERS” (1 Tim. 2:3-4) “[3] For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour, [4] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth. [5] For there is one God, and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus”

(1 John 5: 16-17)” [16] He that knoweth his brother to sin a sin which is not to death, let him ask, and life shall be given to him, who sinneth not to death. There is a sin unto death: for that I say not that any man ask. [17] All iniquity is sin. And there is a sin unto death”

God cannot treat the candy bar thief the same way He would treat a murderer; NOR can God who IS PERFECT; permit any-human-Soul- to enter in to heaven; which too is either not “perfect” upon death of the that Soul’s mortal body; Or, OR cannot be made “perfect” by purging its sins, OR the Temporal Punishment which ALL sins accuse; (even forgiven sins- I’m truly sorry that you were not aware of that contingent.)

End part Part 3 of 4

 

 

 

A Series of 4 consecutive POST on the topic of Purgatory (explained and Justified).

This is Part 4 of 4

Why don’t Protestants get it? 

Please forgive me if I touch a nerve here but to root of the word “Protestant” is apply “to PROTEST!  … It seems to me, and undereducated apologetics teacher; that the answer is self-defeating; or at least self-destructing. Protestants demand the “right” (where that is in the bible is not evident)..” to protest”. And PROTEST TEY DO! The common assumption (Thank you Mr. Luther who is quoted as teaching Cf. “everyone should be their own priest and interpret the bible as their conscience leads them. (He later took this back; but he had already loosed the Genie of self-pride: I Do know more and I Do know better than God “his church”; YOU, and everyone else too. And now after 500 years there are thousands of Protestant churches; each self-identified by its own set of faith-beliefs (despite Ephesians 4: 4-5 “[4] One body (Means just One Church)  and one Spirit; as you are called in one hope of your calling. [5] One Lord, one faith, (Means exactly what it says…. God has only One True set of faith beliefs) one baptism”…

That dear friends is the penalty (Ignorance –imposed) for abandoning; and so often, not even challenging why after 1,600 years of being RIGHT; the Catholic Church somehow INSTANTLY became wrong because Luther, Calvin, Wycliffe, Knox, Smith, and now thousands (and increasing daily), other very human men; claim to know more and know better than Jesus Christ and His One True Church, with its now 2,000 year old Church One True set of Faith beliefs; which alone ought to ring caution alarm bells in “your” (“they & them”) heand’s. But God (Not the Catholic Church, or me) has you so confused; so filled with self-righteous pride; that many can’t even think logically. I have evidenced this many times over the years of my ministry…. I’m always amazed at this phenomenon; but long past being surprised by it. And it saddens me, because I see so much wrongly place placed ”faith” (and soooo many varieties of it) ; amidst so very much fervent LOVE of Jesus. … I’m praying with you for your salvation, because like My Church; I just don’t know. And sadly, I too have family “in your boat.”

HERE IS THE “CRUX OF THE MATTER” on precisely WHY Protestants don’t “get it.” (Or the Bible , or God’s Truth”)

They always, every-time; in every church and every “New” Protestant church…

     Because they begin with false premises (the Bible is ours; All Christian faiths are “the same”, (or equal); you have your truth and we have ours…..

     The result is necessarily yet another FAILED –Effort; another failed promise. “TRUTH” had already been born nearly 1,600 years before the Protestant Revolution; its name was and IS “Jesus.” (John 14:6)” [6] Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me.” … Those who are able to see that each word is singular tense; AND comprehend the consequences of this; as the NORM, are Informed Catholics; those who think the bible is “MY Bible; MY Christian book” … well, those are the ones we Catholics need to keep praying for. Amen!

 

          Here then is the claim of purgatories power and purpose. Consider prayerfully this puzzle:

One Soul dies with the unconfessed; unremitted sin of stealing that candy bar from Walmart we shared earlier (a “venial sin”)

The Other Soul dies having participated in Adultery; and unrepentant; unconfessed and unforgiven dies (1 Jn. 5:16-17) … (a ”Mortal-sin”)

          Now because God is as He HAS to be; “Fair” and “Just” sits in final and instant upon-death-Justice; what is He going to decide?

Surely both souls do not deserve the same punishment OR reward:

The Adulterer is clearly Hell bound; having chosen it for himself. (Please do read On.)

          BUT the candy-bar- stealer still has sin on his Soul; he’s NOT “perfect” as God DEMANDS all Souls MUST be to enter into the Beatific Vision. What doe GOD do with such Souls? And what about the countless Souls that have; yet unrepaid DEBT, that God Himself applies to every sin, on every Soul in Divine Justice. This debt too; even if a person dies with ALL OF THEIR SINS “FORGIVEN”; their very likely (especially if this comes as a surprise to you) still not, at least fully REPAID in this category of DEBT, so all these Souls too…What happens to them? GOD being God can’t (Even GOD is literally incapable of lowering His “Be Perfect” standard;… so what happens to all these Souls?

          This friends explains the “Why God HAD TO CREATE Purgatory.” Now read for its biblical evidence and explanation (for which; being pooped), I Am so very grateful.

 

Purgatory has the power and authority to repay the debt of both unconfessed and forgiven venial sins at the time of our death AND repay the debt of Temporal Punishment; thus perfecting souls so that they are enabled to enter into heaven.

          A QUESTION for you: Where in the term “Bible” in the bible?… The FACT that it does not appear in THAT word, does not exclude its reality.  The same is said of the term “purgatory.” Amen! Patrick

May God be with each of us.

“Where is Purgatory in the Bible?

http://www.aboutcatholics.com/beliefs/where-is-purgatory-in-the-bible/

By Andres Ortiz

The Bible does not mention the exact word “purgatory,” but instead it makes reference to a place which can be understood as what is referred to as purgatory. To claim that purgatory does not exist because the exact word does not appear in Scripture is a failure to understand Scripture.

What exactly is Purgatory?

The Bible contains references to many Christian doctrines, but fails to call them out by name. One might as well even deny that there is something called the Bible because no such name is found in the Bible. Furthermore, one might as well deny the Trinity, Incarnation, and so forth because these exact words are not found in the Bible.  (inserted by Pjm: neither are Catholic, Protestant … do you get the drift?)

The name does not make the place; the place must exist first, then we give it a name. We call this place “purgatory” because it means “a cleansing place.” Therein souls are purged from the small stains of sin, which prevent their immediate entrance into Heaven.

In the Old Testament

The first mention of Purgatory in the Bible is in 2 Maccabees 12:46: “Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from sin.”

Some people do not accept Maccabees as book of the Bible. This is unfortunate since it is that their Bibles have been edited and are missing books. (Find out Why Catholic Bibles Are Different) Even if a person does not accept the book of Maccabees, it at least has historical value for we can learn what the pre-Christian community believed.

In Chapter 12 of Second Maccabees we read Scriptural proof for Purgatory and evidence that the Jews had sacrifices offered for those of their brothers who had lost their lives in battle. That the Jews prayed for the dead shows that they believed in a place where they could be helped (which we now call purgatory) and that the prayers of their living brothers and sisters could help them in that place. This is closely related to the Catholic doctrine of the communion of saints.

During the Reformation in the 15th century, when Martin Luther was deciding to remove books from the Bible, these words in the book of Maccabees had so clearly favored Catholic teaching, that the whole book was removed from the Protestant Bible. Unfortunately for Protestants, even if they feel that the book was not inspired, it still tells us of the practice of God’s chosen people.

In the New Testament

In Matthew 5:26 and Luke 12:59 Christ is condemning sin and speaks of liberation only after expiation. “Amen, I say to you, you will not be released until you have paid the last penny.” Now we know that no last penny needs to be paid in Heaven and from Hell there is no liberation at all; hence the reference must apply to a third place.

Matthew 12:32 says, “And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.” Here Jesus speaks of sin against the Holy Spirit. The implication is that some sins can be forgiven in the world to come. We know that in Hell there is no liberation and in Heaven nothing imperfect can enter it as we see in the next part. Sin is not forgiven when a soul reaches its final destination because in heaven there is no need for forgiveness of sin and in hell the choice to go there is already made.

Revelation 21:27: “…but nothing unclean will enter it, nor anyone who does abominable things or tells lies.” The place that is to be entered (the place to which this passage refers) is heaven (read the text around it for context).

The Bible clearly implies a place for an intermediate state of purification after we die in the many passages which tell that God will reward or punish according to a person’s life.

What if purgatory really doesn’t exist?

Ponder the following example. Imagine a Christian man, justified by the Lord, loses his temper and yells at his next door neighbors for letting their dog dig a hole in his yard. We can see that the man treated his neighbors rudely, albeit the neighbor’s behavior was also reprehensible. His actions would be considered a light sin (called venial sins by the Catholic Church). It’s not of the same moral weight as theft or murder, but it’s still a sin.

After shouting at the neighbors, with all the anger and stress in his body the man walks into his house, has a heart attack, and dies having just committed a small sin in the final moments of his life. Remember, this man is Christian and justified by the Lord, yet has committed a sin. Does he go to heaven or does he go to hell? Are all sins created equal? No, all sins are not equal and even justified men of the Lord can make mistakes and sin.

If purgatory didn’t exist, the man would go to hell for his small sin. God’s mercy is so great and our God is a just God that it seems unfathomable that he would condemn a justified man to hell for a small, yet unrepented sin. The man’s soul is dirty. His actions have defiled his soul, but not the point where he has cut himself off from God. Only mortal sins cut off a person from God’s grace. So, the man, having been justified by the Lord, is destined for heaven, yet his soul is defiled by his sin (Matthew 12:36, 15:18). His soul is in need of cleansing because nothing defiled can enter heaven. This is the purpose of purgatory. Out of mercy and love God sends the man through purgatory on his way to heaven so that his soul can be purified to be able to join God in heaven.

Remember, purgatory is not a second chance for conversion; the man is already justified. If there is no place of intermediate state of purification, the man would be damned to hell! Who would be saved? Those who teach against purgatory teach an unreasonable doctrine. Will Catholics go to heaven?

So, why do non-Catholics reject a teaching so full of consolation? My guess is that they want to believe that the merits of Christ applied to the sinner who trusts in Him, will remove all sin past, present, and future abdicating all responsibility for sin after justification. Yet this is also unreasonable. Only Jesus’ death on the cross makes us worthy before God the Father. We cannot stand before him on our own merits. We need Jesus Christ. Yet we also have personal responsibility in our justification before the Lord.

Luke 12:48:

Much will be required of the person entrusted with much, and still more will be demanded of the person entrusted with more.

If we accept Christ’s sacrifice on the cross, confess him as Lord, yet commit bad actions, God judges accordingly.

Matthew 12:37:

By your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.

Our acceptance of the sacrifice of Christ on the cross does not abdicate our responsibility to live the Gospel. Salvation is not assured. Salvation is not by faith alone for the Bible says that we will be held accountable by our words and that much will be entrusted to us! Nowhere in the Bible does it say salvation is by faith alone. This teaching is un-Scriptural. Rather the Scriptures say that faith without works is dead (James 2:26).

While Jesus can be the only acceptable sacrifice to God for our sins, it doesn’t give us a license to sin. Nor does justification by the Lord preserve us from sin. Even a justified man can commit a sin. Therefore, even though Christ’s blood on the cross makes us right before God, God still requires much from us in return. He requires us to die to ourselves each day and to choose him in everything we do. It simply doesn’t fit with God’s justice for a person to be off the hook simply because at some point in the past they became justified. We have a duty to God to obey him for if we do not obey God we will be punished according to his justice. Purgatory is part of God’s justice. END QUOTES

Purgatory is “Heaven Prep”

FROM: http://www.catholic.com/tracts/purgatory

“The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven,” which is experienced by those “who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified” (CCC 1030). It notes that “this final purification of the elect . . . is entirely different from the punishment of the damned” (CCC 1031).

The purification is necessary because, as Scripture teaches, nothing unclean will enter the presence of God in heaven (Rev. 21:27) and, while we may die with our mortal sins forgiven, there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment (THAT’S THE DEBT God Himself applies to EVERY sin)  even to due to sins already forgiven.

Two Judgments

When we die, we undergo what is called the particular, or individual, judgment. Scripture says that “it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment” (Heb. 9:27). We are judged instantly and receive our reward, for good or ill. We know at once what our final destiny will be. At the end of time, when Jesus returns, there will come the general judgment to which the Bible refers, for example, in Matthew 25:31-32: “When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.” In this general judgment all our sins will be publicly revealed (Luke 12:2–5).

Augustine said, in The City of God, that “temporary punishments are suffered by some in this life only, by others after death, by others both now and then; but all of them before that last and strictest judgment” (21:13). It is between the particular and general judgments, then, that the soul is purified of the remaining consequences of sin: “I tell you, you will never get out till you have paid the very last copper” (Luke 12:59).

Money, Money, Money

One argument anti-Catholics often use to attack purgatory is the idea that the Catholic Church makes money from promulgating the doctrine. Without purgatory, the claim asserts, the Church would go broke. Any number of anti-Catholic books claim the Church owes the majority of its wealth to this doctrine. But the numbers just don’t add up.

When a Catholic requests a memorial Mass for the dead—that is, a Mass said for the benefit of someone in purgatory—it is customary to give the parish priest a stipend, on the principles that the laborer is worth his hire (Luke 10:7) and that those who preside at the altar share the altar’s offerings (1 Cor. 9:13–14). In the United States, a stipend is commonly around five dollars; but the indigent do not have to pay anything. A few people, of course, freely offer more. This money goes to the parish priest, and priests are only allowed to receive one such stipend per day. No one gets rich on five dollars a day, and certainly not the Church, which does not receive the money anyway.

But look at what happens on a Sunday. There are often hundreds of people at Mass. In a crowded parish, there may be thousands. Many families and individuals deposit five dollars or more into the collection basket; others deposit less. A few give much more. A parish might have four or five or six Masses on a Sunday. The total from the Sunday collections far surpasses the paltry amount received from the memorial Masses.

A Catholic “Invention”?

Fundamentalists may be fond of saying the Catholic Church “invented” the doctrine of purgatory to make money, but they have difficulty saying just when. Most professional anti-Catholics—the ones who make their living attacking “Romanism”—seem to place the blame on Pope Gregory the Great, who reigned from A.D. 590–604.

But that hardly accounts for the request of Monica, mother of Augustine, who asked her son, in the fourth century, to remember her soul in his Masses. This would make no sense if she thought her soul would not benefit from prayers, as would be the case if she were in hell or in the full glory of heaven.

Nor does ascribing the doctrine to Gregory explain the graffiti in the catacombs, where Christians during the persecutions of the first three centuries recorded prayers for the dead. Indeed, some of the earliest Christian writings outside the New Testament, like the Acts of Paul and Thecla and the Martyrdom of Perpetua and Felicity (both written during the second century), refer to the Christian practice of praying for the dead. Such prayers would have been offered only if Christians believed in purgatory, even if they did not use that name for it. (See Catholic Answers’ Fathers Know Best tract The Existence of Purgatory for quotations from these and other early Christian sources.)

Why No Protests?

Whenever a date is set for the “invention” of purgatory, you can point to historical evidence to show the doctrine was in existence before that date. Besides, if at some point the doctrine was pulled out of a clerical hat, why does ecclesiastical history record no protest against it?

A study of the history of doctrines indicates that Christians in the first centuries were up in arms (sometimes quite literally) if anyone suggested the least change in beliefs. They were extremely conservative people who tested a doctrine’s truth by asking, Was this believed by our ancestors? Was it handed on from the apostles? Surely belief in purgatory would be considered a great change, if it had not been believed from the first—so where are the records of protests?

They don’t exist. There is no hint at all, in the oldest writings available to us (or in later ones, for that matter), that “true believers” in the immediate post-apostolic years spoke of purgatory as a novel doctrine. They must have understood that the oral teaching of the apostles, what Catholics call tradition, and the Bible not only failed to contradict the doctrine, but, in fact, confirmed it.

It is no wonder, then, that those who deny the existence of purgatory tend to touch upon only briefly the history of the belief. They prefer to claim that the Bible speaks only of heaven and hell. Wrong. It speaks plainly of a third condition, commonly called the limbo of the Fathers, where the just who had died before the redemption were waiting for heaven to be opened to them. After his death and before his resurrection, Christ visited those experiencing the limbo of the Fathers and preached to them the good news that heaven would now be opened to them (1 Pet. 3:19). These people thus were not in heaven, but neither were they experiencing the torments of hell.

Some have speculated that the limbo of the Fathers is the same as purgatory. This may or may not be the case. However, even if the limbo of the Fathers is not purgatory, its existence shows that a temporary, intermediate state is not contrary to Scripture. Look at it this way. If the limbo of the Fathers was purgatory, then this one verse directly teaches the existence of purgatory. If the limbo of the Fathers was a different temporary state, then the Bible at least says such a state can exist. It proves there can be more than just heaven and hell.

“Purgatory Not in Scripture”

Some Fundamentalists also charge, as though it actually proved something, “The word purgatory is nowhere found in Scripture.” This is true, and yet it does not disprove the existence of purgatory or the fact that belief in it has always been part of Church teaching. The words Trinity and Incarnation aren’t in Scripture either, yet those doctrines are clearly taught in it. Likewise, Scripture teaches that purgatory exists, even if it doesn’t use that word and even if 1 Peter 3:19 refers to a place other than purgatory.

Christ refers to the sinner who “will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come” (Matt. 12:32), suggesting that one can be freed after death of the consequences of one’s sins. Similarly, Paul tells us that, when we are judged, each man’s work will be tried. And what happens if a righteous man’s work fails the test? “He will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire” (1 Cor 3:15). Now this loss, this penalty, can’t refer to consignment to hell, since no one is saved there; and heaven can’t be meant, since there is no suffering (“fire”) there. The Catholic doctrine of purgatory alone explains this passage.

Then, of course, there is the Bible’s approval of prayers for the dead: “In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the dead to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin” (2 Macc. 12:43–45). Prayers are not needed by those in heaven, and no one can help those in hell. That means some people must be in a third condition, at least temporarily. This verse so clearly illustrates the existence of purgatory that, at the time of the Reformation, Protestants had to cut the books of the Maccabees out of their Bibles in order to avoid accepting the doctrine.

Prayers for the dead and the consequent doctrine of purgatory have been part of the true religion since before the time of Christ. Not only can we show it was practiced by the Jews of the time of the Maccabees, but it has even been retained by Orthodox Jews today, who recite a prayer known as the Mourner’s Kaddish for eleven months after the death of a loved one so that the loved one may be purified. It was not the Catholic Church that added the doctrine of purgatory. Rather, any change in the original teaching has taken place in the Protestant churches, which rejected a doctrine that had always been believed by Jews and Christians.

Why Go To Purgatory?

Why would anyone go to purgatory? To be cleansed, for “nothing unclean shall enter [heaven]” (Rev. 21:27). Anyone who has not been completely freed of sin and its effects is, to some extent, “unclean.” Through repentance he may have gained the grace needed to be worthy of heaven, which is to say, he has been forgiven and his soul is spiritually alive. But that’s not sufficient for gaining entrance into heaven. He needs to be cleansed completely.

Fundamentalists claim, as an article in Jimmy Swaggart’s magazine, The Evangelist, put it, that “Scripture clearly reveals that all the demands of divine justice on the sinner have been completely fulfilled in Jesus Christ. It also reveals that Christ has totally redeemed, or purchased back, that which was lost. The advocates of a purgatory (and the necessity of prayer for the dead) say, in effect, that the redemption of Christ was incomplete. . . . It has all been done for us by Jesus Christ, there is nothing to be added or done by man.”

It is entirely correct to say that Christ accomplished all of our salvation for us on the cross. But that does not settle the question of how this redemption is applied to us. Scripture reveals that it is applied to us over the course of time through, among other things, the process of sanctification through which the Christian is made holy. Sanctification involves suffering (Rom. 5:3–5), and purgatory is the final stage of sanctification that some of us need to undergo before we enter heaven. Purgatory is the final phase of Christ’s applying to us the purifying redemption that he accomplished for us by his death on the cross.

No Contradiction

The Fundamentalist resistance to the biblical doctrine of purgatory presumes there is a contradiction between Christ’s redeeming us on the cross and the process by which we are sanctified. There isn’t. And a Fundamentalist cannot say that suffering in the final stage of sanctification conflicts with the sufficiency of Christ’s atonement without saying that suffering in the early stages of sanctification also presents a similar conflict. The Fundamentalist has it backward: Our suffering in sanctification does not take away from the cross. Rather, the cross produces our sanctification, which results in our suffering, beause “[f]or the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant; later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness” (Heb. 12:11).

Nothing Unclean

Purgatory makes sense because there is a requirement that a soul not just be declared to be clean, but actually be clean, before a man may enter into eternal life. After all, if a guilty soul is merely “covered,” if its sinful state still exists but is officially ignored, then it is still a guilty soul. It is still unclean.

Catholic theology takes seriously the notion that “nothing unclean shall enter heaven.” From this it is inferred that a less than cleansed soul, even if “covered,” remains a dirty soul and isn’t fit for heaven. It needs to be cleansed or “purged” of its remaining imperfections. The cleansing occurs in purgatory. Indeed, the necessity of the purging is taught in other passages of Scripture, such as 2 Thessalonians 2:13, which declares that God chose us “to be saved through sanctification by the Spirit.” Sanctification is thus not an option, something that may or may not happen before one gets into heaven. It is an absolute requirement, as Hebrews 12:14 states that we must strive “for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord.”

 

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            And friends; especially you “Anonymous” on THAT note, I wish you well.  I do offer a prayer here that ANY and ALL (if any?) replies will be Christian; with charity; logical with evidence of your “counter-points.” You cannot demand of Me, to PROVE my point; and NOT expect the very same of yourself. Such would be hypocritical and prideful.

         In the name of Jesus I pray: Lord enteral of us into your Light; for you have stated it clearly and succinctly:

(John 14:6) … Each in singular-tense; God cannot error in what He teaches; but “we” can choose to error in how to understand it. But understand simply choosing to disagree (1) doesn’t change the truth (2)) what might the consequences be?… “[6] Jesus saith Thomas the Catholic Apostle asked Jesus… HOW CAN WE KNOW THE WAY?” and Jesus replied to Him : “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me.”

Amen,

Patrick

Purgatory explained part 2 of 4 By Patrick

A Series of 4 consecutive POST on the topic of Purgatory (explained and Justified).

This is Part 2 of 4

Part 2 (The Goal of all humanity”) …well maybe not “all”

 “HEAVEN. The place and condition of perfect supernatural happiness. This happiness consists essentially in the immediate vision and love of God, and secondarily in the knowledge, love, and enjoyment of creatures. Until the final resurrection, except for Christ and his Mother, only the souls of the just are in heaven. After the last day, the just will be in heaven in body and soul. Although the same God will be seen by all and enjoyed by all, not everyone will have the same degree of happiness. The depth of beatitude will depend on the measure of God’s grace with which a person dies, and this in turn will be greatly conditioned by the merits that one earns during life on earth. Heaven is eternal because it will never cease. It is continuous because its joys never stop. It is communal because the happiness is shared with the angels and saints and the company of those who were known and loved on earth.” Father John A. Hardon’s Catholic Dictionary

Why Protestants are simply unable; that is to say are actually restricted; inhibited from the Bibles right understanding”

I share this in charity, with not the least bit of animosity. I cannot envision a logical evidenced reply; though I’m open to one. The fact is that there are literally thousands of Differing Protestant “churches”; each individually-self-identified; as is the Roman Catholic Church, by its OWN-set of Faith beliefs now some 2,000 years old, which are God given (Mt. 10:1-8; Mt. 16:15-19; John 17:16-21; Eph. 4:1-5- Mt 28:18-20); and God protected (John 17:16-21). Each of which is clearly expressed; and author intended to be direct and exclusive to and through the Apostles and by necessity their successors…. (Compare Mt 10:1-8 to Mt. 28-18-20). It is precisely not being able to see the direct and exclusivity of such passages, and, oh, so many more; that highlights the manmade births of thousands of separate and differing sets of Faith beliefs in Protestant- Christianity. While Protestants in ever-growing numbers keep searching for God’s single set of Truths; truth long and very long in the deposit of Faith of Catholics; who retain and alone can share the Fullness of God’s directly and exclusively entrusted Faith. That friends is historical and biblical evidenced facts.

(Mt. 28:18-20).  [18] And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. [19] Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.

 

(DOUAY Bible explanation) [18] “All power”: See here the warrant and commission of the apostles and their successors, the bishops and pastors of Christ’s church. He received from his Father all power in heaven and in earth: and in virtue of this power, he sends them (even as his Father sent him, St. John 20. 21) to teach and disciple, not one, but all nations; and instruct them in all truths: and that he may assist them effectually in the execution of this commission, he promises to be with them, not for three or four hundred years only, but all days, even to the consummation of the world. How then could the Catholic Church ever go astray; having always with her pastors, as is here promised, Christ himself, who is the way, the truth, and the life. St. John 14.

          But that does yet address the “WHY” non-Catholic Christians are prohibited from ”Right Understanding of God’s Bible.”

And being God’s Bible (1st Tim.3:16-17)  “[16] All scripture, (IS) inspired of God, (AND) is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice, [17] That the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work.” … Is the first evidence.

The Magisterium of the Catholic Church

http://www.catholicessentials.net/magisterium.htm (This site is far more extensive and informative then I share here. Pjm)

Defined as “the Church’s divinely appointed authority to teach the truths of religion”. In other words, Our Lord gave His Church the authority to teach the faithful about what is expected of them, and that is what the Church has done consistently from the start.

The Magisterium of Catholic Church teaches the faithful in two ways;

1) Solemn Magisterium: is Church teaching which is used only rarely by formal and authentic definitions of councils or Popes. This includes dogmatic definitions by councils or Popes teaching “ex cathedra” (Infallible)
2) Ordinary Magisterium: this second form of Church teaching is continually exercised by the Church especially in her universal practices connected with faith and morals, in the unanimous consent of the Fathers and theologians, in the decisions of the Roman Congregations concerning faith and morals, in the common sense of the Faithful, and various historical documents, in which the faith is declared.

(Definitions from A Catholic Dictionary, 1951) See below for Scripture and Church teaching on the Magisterium of the Church.
References In Scripture to the Magisterium of the Church:

  • “And the apostles and ancients assembled to consider of this matter. And when there had been much disputing, Peter, rising up, said to them: Men, brethren, you know, that in former days God made choice among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, who knoweth the hearts, gave testimony, giving unto them the Holy Ghost, as well as to us” Acts 15:6-8.
  • And later in the same chapter: “For it hath seemed good to the Holy Ghost and to us…” Acts 15:28
  • “Go ye into the whole world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.” Matthew 16:1

Catholic Church Teaching on the Solemn and Ordinary Magisterium of the Church: (Inserted by Pjm… The Magisterium is the fulfillment of John 19: 16-21)

(Mt. 16: [26] But the Paraclete, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you. [27] Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, do I give unto you. Let not your heart be troubled,….  (THIS IS THE CHAPTER WHERE JESUS APPPOINTS PETER TO HEAD HIS NEW CHURCH AND GIVES TO HIM ALL OF THE KEY’S TO HEAVENLY ACCESS..Pjm)

(DOUAY Catholic Bible explanation) [26] “Teach you all things”: Here the Holy Ghost is promised to the apostles and their successors, particularly, in order to teach them all truth, and to preserve them from error.”

  • “All those things are to be believed by divine and Catholic faith whi
  • ch are contained in the written Word of God or in Tradition, and which are proposed by the Church, either in solemn judgment or in its ordinary and universal teaching office, as divinely revealed truths which must be believed.” (First Vatican Council, 1870)
  • “For this reason the Fathers of the Vatican Council laid down nothing new, but followed divine revelation and the acknowledged and invariable teaching of the Church as to the very nature of faith, when they decreed as follows: “All those things are to be believed by divine and Catholic faith which are contained in the written or unwritten word of God, and which are pro posed by the Church as divinely revealed, either by a solemn definition or in the exercise of its ordinary and universal Magisterium” (Sess. iii., cap. 3)” Encyclical On the Unity of the Church by Pope Leo XIII, 1896
  • “But for Catholics nothing will remove the authority of the second Council of Nicea, where it condemns those “who dare, after the impious fashion of heretics, to deride the ecclesiastical traditions, to invent novelties of some kind…or endeavor by malice or craft to overthrow any one of the legitimate traditions of the Catholic Church”; nor that of the declaration of the fourth Council of Constantinople: “We therefore profess to preserve and guard the rules bequeathed to the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, by the Holy and most illustrious Apostles, by the orthodox Councils, both general and local, and by everyone of those divine interpreters, the Fathers and Doctors of the Church.” Wherefore the Roman Pontiffs, Pius IV and Pius IX, ordered the insertion in the profession of faith of the following declaration: “I most firmly admit and embrace the apostolic and ecclesiastical traditions and other observances and constitutions of the Church.” Encyclical On the Doctrine of the Modernists by Pope Pius X, 1907

 End of part quoted

          Friends; and despite our difference WE ARE, friends; the Bible is a Catholic Book. It existed for about 1,500 years prior to the Protestant “Reformation.” And existed in its current book-form, of 73 books (46 OT & 27 NT) for about 1,100 years prior to the Reformation (So where do Protestant get their “authority” to tell the direct-decedents of the Authors; all of whom are Catholics, including five Apostles; Matthew, John, Paul, James and of course Peter, of the Catholic New Testament who are alone; directly and exclusively, Jesus Christ Personally assured to be enabled to teach the FULLNESS of His Truth?) …  PLEASE READ THIS AS THE AUTHOR INTENDED IT TO BE; DIRECLY TO AND EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE APOSTLES AND THEIR BY ABSOLUTE NECESSITY; SUCCESSORS: (John 17: 16-21)

(Revelation 22: 19-20)” [19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from these things that are written in this book. [20] He that giveth testimony of these things, saith, Surely I come quickly: Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.”

(Jesus IS  GOD; what Jesus here, in his human nature is praying, hence is an already fully accomplished fact.[16] They are not of the world, as I also am not of the world. [17] Sanctify them in truth. Thy word is truth. [18] As thou hast sent me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. (THIS IS TO BE UNDERSOOD AS A LITERAL FACT) [19] And for them do I sanctify myself, (Meaning that Jesus here is offering to the Father Himself as the Personal Warranty of ALL His Churches teachings on Faith and Morals that align with His provided Infallibly inspired Catholic-Magisterium). that they also may (means here “will be”)  be sanctified in truth.  (To be understood in PRESENT TENSE as “ARE”) [20] And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me;[21] That they all may be one, as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee; that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”

          Friends, the above clearly articulates and evidences the Catholic “position” as exclusive and rightful heirs to as the only holder of the “Key’s to Heaven’s Gate” (singular: “My Church,” (Mt. 16:18)which means only and precisely that. So what then is the Protestant “authority” to assume a right to override the very direct and exclusive (the Fact that one doesn’t agree with its exclusivity; does not change its factual-truth. Are YOU REALLY going to tell Jesus at the immediate judgement; ahhh Jesus I thought it meant everyone? REALLY?

(1 Tim. 1: 7-8) “[7] Desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither the things they say, nor whereof they affirm. [8] But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully”

 

(2 Peter 1: 19-20) “[19] And we have the more firm prophetical word: whereunto you do well to attend, as to a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: [20] Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation.” (In other words if it does not fully align with the Faith and Moral teachings of the Catholics Magisterium; simply put: It’s wrong!)

 

I didn’t intend to advertise my book, but when I was doing my research, it POPPED up, so I’m leaving the information for it here.

Catholic & Christian: A Book of Essential Catholic Catechesis

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“So without purgatory, untold numbers of souls will be unable to attain heaven as … Any soul that dies without unconfessed and unforgiven mortal sin is imperfect …”

Patrick Miron –

 

          This seems to be an appropriate time and place to at least briefly explain the rationale; and evidence the about the above partial quote from  my book.

 

SOUL. The spiritual immortal part in human beings that animates their body. Though a substance in itself, the soul is naturally ordained toward a body; separated, it is an “incomplete” substance. The soul has no parts, it is therefore simple, but it is not without accidents. The faculties are its proper accidents. Every experience adds to its accidental form. It is individually created for each person by God and infused into the body at the time of human insemination. It is moreover created in respect to the body it will inform, so that the substance of bodily features and of mental characteristics insofar as they depend on organic functions is safeguarded. As a simple and spiritual substance, the soul cannot die. Yet it is not the total human nature, since a human person is composed of body animated by the soul. In philosophy, animals and plants are also said to have souls, which operate as sensitive and vegetative principles of life. Unlike the human spirit, these souls are perishable. The rational soul contains all the powers of the two other souls and is the origin of the sensitive and vegetative functions in the human being” Father John A Hardon’s Catholic Dictionary

For those bible experts out there; the fact that the bible was fully authored nearly 2,000 years ago poses challenges; with our Theologians, doing their jobs; and invent new words; new term in order to clarify, and to define complex, and often, profound concept-teachings. That’s the story behind purgatory. And I’m going to brief in the extreme here, as I will cover this late in greater deatial. But just to egg-on our thinking; I will OFFER here a brief summary:

  1. God is “good”; in fact He is so good that God is “Perfect.”
  2. God does not send any Soul either to hell, or to heaven. Those friend are our individual life-choices manifested.
  3. God to be “good” (Perfectly) MUST then be “Fair and Just”
  4. (1 John 1:8-9) teaches that everyone * (*Jesus and Mary exempted here)are sinners; which means our Souls are in need of sin-forgiveness; BUT ALSO GUILT-FORGIVENESS; which Theologians term “The Temporal Punishment”; that GOD Himself attaches to the “backside of sin- forgiveness.” And because this places the Guilt-ridden- Soul in God’s exclusive “rights and wrongs” bookkeeping; only God knows (**) what kind of payments He is willing to accept; the amount of the debt; and the payments for the debt.

 

That said; in (Mt. 16:18-19);(**) Jesus clearly, specifically, directly and exclusively (read and assume that the author KNEW what he wanted to say; and was Holy Spirit Inspired in the language he choose to do so,) to empower His New One True Faith and Church. “MY Church” is notably singular; AND as ALL “churches are self-identified by their freely (actually not so “free”; as all actions do have consequences) chosen and individualized one set of faith beliefs for each and every “church.” The Catholic Church included; but notably with the one foundationally the same Faith for 2,000 years; taught and given it to it by Jesus. For example the Catholic-Mass Format used even today dates with historical evidence back to the 2nd. Century; and was itself based on early 1st. Century practices (Acts 2:42; Lk. 24: 35) … Let me get back on track here: So In (Mt.16:19) GOD (heaven) is the ”pseudonym” actually used; PROMISES that He God WILL accept whatever laws, rules; practices  that the Church imposes or delates; or changes; PERIOD! Of note for those who may not know it: Catholic “practices are changeable; while Catholic Doctrines Are Not.

 

So the Church through the Power and the Authority of the only Key’s to heaven gate; NO, I am not saying here that ONLY Catholics get to heaven; though we certainly have advantages not available (except for the Orthodox churches; that too have the Seven Sacraments (the INSIDE track to heaven) ”validly” but not licitly; whereas the Catholic Church has them both validly and licitly and ALONE can share the Fullness of God’s “Good news;” making it GREAT News!

 

With the Power of the Key’s the CC teaches that God will accept works of charity; Prayer, Praise; Worship and Adoration as payments; BUT ONLY God knows the amount of our individual debt; and how much payment He is accepting and applying to that secret debt, as we try to repay the debt in full BEFORE dying. The Catholic Church though is empowered also to engage indulgences as payment; a separate topic. Sacramental Confession (John 20:19-23) and Jesus Himself in the Eucharist are INCREDIBLE-grace-opportunity-advantages.

 

  1. So there are in an absolute sense three (21/5) choices God has when we die:
  2. If our Soul is PERFECT, no son and no debt for sin; off to heaven we go
  3. If we die with Mortal sin;(1 John 5:16-17) unconfessed; without true/ remorse ;we just purchased the ticket for eternal Hell
  4. And then there are those who dies with unconfessed / unforgiven Venial sins; OR perhaps no sin but we still have the God-imposed Debt all sin accrue; what happens to them? They absolutely cannot enter into heaven; as ONLY truly “perfect” Souls get past “Peter.” … That was the quandary that forced God (who HAS to be Just and fair) to create; not a “second chance”; but a “Fair; a Just way that AFTER making FULL payment; will enter into God’s eternal embrace. … Personally I think of Purgatory as a Sorta “Soul Wash.”

 

Each of these IS teaching about Purgatory:

Rev.21: 27 “But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s book of life.”

Matt.5:26 “truly, I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny.”

Matt.5: 48 “You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

1 John: 3:3[3] And every one that hath this hope in him, sanctifieth himself, as he also is holy. “

 

This is the end of Part 2 of 4

On Purgatory this is part 3… By Patrick

A Series of 4 consecutive POST on the topic of Purgatory (explained and Justified).

This is Part 3 of 4

 This IS Part 3 of  4 “We go on for those who have a head with ears attached and that actually are able to hear; (Wich means to correctly understand the teaching).

For five centuries now there have been countless debates (which had NOT existed for the prior 1,500 YEARS) on the existence of (and for that matter a need for) the existence of Purgatory. Having now shared the ground work for the older than 2,000 year Old Catholic Doctrine; I hope to now share

(1) The “nature and effects of sin”

 (2) Explain God’s Rationale for creating Purgatory

(3) And share; when understood the biblical evidence for it’s necessary

  • God’s Premise for Purgatory:

         Purgatory exist because of the very nature of sin. Not all sins are of equal in amounts the amounts of guilt they incur. And venial (lesser sins) won’t send a Soul to hell; while death with even ONE- mortal sin (and the name itself implies); that is unconfessed; unremitted and not even regretted, will. …WHAT! “one lousy sin” can send me to hell?!

(Rev.21:27)” But nothing unclean shall enter it, (Heaven) nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s book of life.”

Here’s THE translation: God speaking: Cf. I’m Perfect therefore nothing unperfected will enter into my presence. Cf. (2 Tim. 3:17; Mt. 5:48)

  • What sin is, what its effects are and its two basic natures: (1 Jn. 1: 8-1 & 1 Jn. 5:16-17 & John 20:19-23)

[16] He that knoweth his brother to sin a sin which is not to death, let him ask, and life shall be given to him, who sinneth not to death. There is a sin unto death: for that I say not that any man ask. [17] All iniquity is sin. And there is a sin unto death

So if you consider yourself a “Christian”; consider yourself warned. “Death” here of course means a spiritual; an eternal death of your Soul; which YOU have freely chosen to place in danger of Hell. Why-so? Because All mortal sins are so grievous to our Perfect-God; that they create a breech; a schism between you and God until and unless with True Contrition; one turns back to God, and seek His forgiveness through HIS way of sin forgiveness; Sacramental Confession. 

Douay Catholic Bible  with Commentary: (2 Tim. 3:16-17) “[16] All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice[17] That the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work.”

 

(D B C) [16] All scripture,”: Every part of divine scripture is certainly profitable for all these ends. But, if we would have the whole rule of Christian faith and practice, we must not be content with those Scriptures, which Timothy knew from his infancy, that is, with the Old Testament alone: nor yet with the New Testament, without taking along with it the traditions of the apostles, and the interpretation of the church, to which the apostles delivered both the book, and the true meaning of it.” End of quotes

 

(John 20:19-23)” [19] Now when it was late that same day, the first of the week, and the doors were shut, where the disciples were gathered together, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them: Peace be to you[20] And when he had said this, he shewed them his hands and his side. The disciples therefore were glad, when they saw the Lord. [21] He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you. [22] When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained”

 

(D B C) [19] “The doors were shut”: The same power which could bring Christ’s whole body, entire in all its dimensions, through the doors, can without the least question make the same body really present in the sacrament; though both the one and the other be above our comprehension.

And guess what: Here it is from the King James Bible: “23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained” …. So use your own logic; what does THIS ACTUALLY-as in “literally” SAY; and WHO is saying it?….

Folk’s; ahhhh, this IS GOD speaking! Do you suppose that this is just accidently included in the bible?

          My kid sister who I loved dearly was an ? I LOVE YOU Jesus; THANK YOU Jesus Christian (which I greatly admired), who died about 2 years ago now. On a short-trip with her she asked me if “I was saved?”… I told her “Yes and I still in the process of being saved…    The she said “what the heck does that mean?” and I replied “Salvation is a life-long-process…. She was just quiet so I asked her if she had a bible handy. … She replied yes in the glovebox. So I got it out and it was KJB of the NT only; which was all that I was looking for. … I read The above John 20:23 passage to her and she asked me to read it again (obviously not aware of it; or so it seems to me.) So I read it to her a SECOND TIME AND REMINED HER IT WAS FROM HER KJB…. Then I asked her what she thought it meant; she replied: “I don’t know but it doesn’t mean what it said!” … Then without pause; she went on to tell me she didn’t want to talk anymore about religion. (I just smiled and said a prayer for her.)  … And if you’re a protestant; do ya think God will accept that answer?(Would you?)

Protestants often hold and teach that Christ has ALREADY done “everything”(Sufficient/ Substituted- Atonement”) needed for their salvation once “they have received Christ as their “personal Savior.”  … Can one’s salvation really be that simple? That easy?Really?

          Sin falls into 2 categories: Mortal and Venial [greater and lesser] (1 John 5:16-17) ; and ALL sins accrue a concealed  that God Himself applies to All sins; because (1) all sins have a public nature; that is affect others besides the sinner; and All sins are an affront upon God’s very goodness; God basic Nature.)  This is due to the “public nature” of all sin, meaning that all sins affect- others besides the sinner themselves; hence God Himself imposes and penalty that must be repaid “I full” in order for that Soul to enter into heaven.

The terms mortal, deadly, grave, and serious applied to sin are synonyms, each with a slightly different implication. Mortal and deadly focus on the effects in the sinner, namely deprivation of the state of friendship with God; grave and serious refer to the importance of the matter in which a person offends God. But the Church never distinguishes among these terms as though they represented different kinds of sins. There is only one recognized correlative to mortal sin, and that is venial sin, which offends against God but does not cause the loss of one’s state of grace. (Etym. Latin mors, death.) Father John A, Hardon’s Catholic Dictionary

(1 John 5: 16-17) “[16] He that knoweth his brother to sin a sin which is not to death, let him ask, and life shall be given to him, who sinneth not to death. There is a sin unto death: for that I say not that any man ask. [17] All iniquity is sin. And there is a sin unto death. (Does not mean only one specific sin: for example, both slander which ruins a person’s reputation and Murder are both Mortal sins;  an-on-to-spiritual death sins. And there are very many others as well.

Because God directly imposes this guilt for sins-debt; God alone knows the amount of debt He will REQUIRE to pay that debt.   This debt is repaid with as Christ as the comptroller, by charity, prayers, sacrifices and Indulgences [a separate topic] … This is biblically grounded.

(Matthew 16:18- 19) “[18] And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.”

“To bind and to loose” were common Jewish-Law-terms; enforceable in Jewish courts of Law. There are two definitions: (1)  Unlimited Powers of Governance to make and enforce, and void Laws (2) The Power to forgive mans repented & Confessed sons (John 20:19-23)”…..  [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.”

          The point being that the CC does have the God given; God assured Powers to mandate way’s to repay this debt while still on earth: charity; prayers; sacrifices and indulgences (which is a separate topic.”) The thing is with just one exception dealing with indulgences; only God knowns even by these works; how much of the debt has been repaid.

 

God’s rationale for creating Purgatory is based on Love, Mercy and the Divine Nature that MUST include Fairness and Justice.

          “Why a “MUST-include” is inescapable”

Genesis 1:26-27 teaches that God choose to “Create us in his own image”John 4:23-24 teaches us “that God is a Spirit” and all must worship him ‘in spirit and in TRUTH.’ ”

So how does physical, mortal man; emulate our Eternal-Spiritual God?

This is accomplished by one the most astonishing teaching in the bible (which poor translation have Bastardized: Douay Catholic Bible which even in English predates the JKB by about 10 years if my memory serves?)

Genesis2:6-7 [6] But a spring rose out of the earth, watering all the surface of the earth. [7] And the Lord God formed man of the slime of the earth: and breathed into his face the breath of life, and man became a living soul.” Wow! Man emulates our God because our Human Souls similar to our GOD are immortal and rational.

So why is humanity “rational”? = a mind, intellect and a freewill which are permanently attached to all human Souls. We alone in the created universe can and are alone enabled to Know GOD (even through the universe by itself,) which exist precisely and exclusively for this very reason. If, and to the extent that we cooperate with God’s grace, we can then know Him in other ways that are beneficial to our personal salvation. We will each be judged on the extent of cooperation Offered BY US with regard to God’s OFFER of grace, (which varies somewhat for every human Soul); which in turn ultimately determines our salvation. The greater one’s acceptance of grace; the more grace we accept and rightly apply; the greater are the odds of one’s personal salvation.

Someone who steals a candy-bar from Walmart (for kicks); cannot be judged by GOD with the same penalty as someone who commits adultery; or kills an innocent baby in the womb. As the NORM; stealing a candy can’t send one to hell; the other two offences Do hold that possibility.

So consider and ponder this:

Soul (A) steal the candy bar, unrepentant; unconfessed (John19:29:23); unforgiven

Soul (B) also dies with the same conditions in place

          Soul (A) has a small-sin on his Soul and hence is “imperfect” and nothing imperfect can get into heaven

          Soul (B) though has a grievous-Mortal sin on his Soul and has thus chosen for himself Eternal-Hell

So let’s assume Protestants here are correct and that ONLY Heaven and Hell exist (thank God that their not)… What happens to Soul (A).(and NO, God doesn’t let him squeak-by (He Can’t and Still BE our “Perfect God”) Which does explain God’s… Why I Did It question.

          Before closing out this section; allow me to address WHY Protestants Can’ t( and this IS the correct word here),  understand what they are reading.

(Matt. 11: 15) “ [15] He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

((Matt. 13:43) “ [43] Then shall the just shine as the sun, in the kingdom of their Father. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

(Mark 4: 9) “[9] And he said: He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

(Mark 7:16) [“16] If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.”

(Luke 8:8) “[8] And other some fell upon good ground; and being sprung up, yielded fruit a hundredfold. Saying these things, he cried out: He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

(Luke 14:35) “ [35] It is neither profitable for the land nor for the dunghill, but shall be cast out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

(Acts 2:14) “[14] But Peter standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and spoke to them: Ye men of Judea, and all you that dwell in Jerusalem, be this known to you, and with your ears receive my words.

(Acts 28:27) “[27] For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears have they heard heavily, and their eyes they have shut; lest perhaps they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.”

 

          If that’s not enough then permit me to add these:

(Matt. 10: parts of verses 10-34

 [10] And his disciples came and said to him: Why speakest thou to them in parables?

[11] Who answered and said to them: Because to you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven: but to them it is not given. [12] For he that hath, to him shall be given, and he shall abound: but he that hath not, from him shall be taken away that also which he hath[13] Therefore do I speak to them in parables: because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. [14] And the prophecy of Isaias is fulfilled in them, who saith: By hearing you shall hear, and shall not understand: and seeing you shall see, and shall not perceive. [15] For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears they have been dull of hearing, and their eyes they have shut: lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

[16] But blessed are your eyes, because they see, and your ears, because they hear[17] For, amen, I say to you, many prophets and just men have desired to see the things that you see, and have not seen them, and to hear the things that you hear and have not heard them.

[34] All these things Jesus spoke in parables to the multitudes: and without parables he did not speak to them. [35] That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying: I will open my mouth in parables, I will utter things hidden from the foundation of the world.”

 

          The permit to ask this question on your behalf: “Is EVERYTHING NESESSARY FOR ONES SALVATION?”

(John 20:29-31) “[29] Jesus saith to him: Because thou hast seen me, Thomas, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and have believed. [30] Many other signs also did Jesus in the sight of his disciples, which are not written in this book.[31] But these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God: and that believing, you may have life in his name.”

(John 21:24-25) “[24] This is that disciple who giveth testimony of these things, and hath written these things; and we know that his testimony is true. [25] But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written”

(John 27: 37-40) “[37] And whereas he had done so many miracles before them, they believed not in him: [38] That the saying of Isaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he said: Lord, who hath believed our hearing? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed? [39] Therefore they could not believe, because Isaias said again: [40] He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart, that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.”

 

God who can be briefly defined as “All good things perfected”

God cannot judge fairly all sins being of equal consequences: thus Mortal and Venial sin exist

Man exist so that we might freely choose to know, love, worship and serve God [Isaiah 43: 7 & 21]

God desires to save as many souls as are willing to accept His grace and OBEY Him fully Acts 28:20; Mt. 10:22 & 1st Tim. 2:4; which are the underpinning for purgatory.

Each of these DO reference Purgatory when CORRECTLY UNDERSTOOD.

Lev.22: 21 “And when any one offers a sacrifice of peace offerings to the LORD, to fulfil a vow or as a freewill offering, from the herd or from the flock, to be accepted it must be perfect; there shall be no blemish in it”

Rev.21: 27 “But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s book of life.”

Matt.5:26 “truly, I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny.”

Matt.5: 48 “You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

Heb.2:10 “For it was fitting that he, for whom and by whom all things exist, in bringing many sons to glory, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through suffering.”

1John.3: 2 – 3 “Beloved, we are God’s children now; it does not yet appear what we shall be, but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. And every one who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.”

1Cor.3: 13 – 14 “each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a

 

          WHY Purgatory?

Because having created Purgatory for the state of imperfect man countless more souls will be enabled to enter the Beatific Vision. God’s Presence

Because God is PERFECT, in order to enter into heaven, man’s soul too must either be perfect upon death, OR perfected AFTER death if the Soul dies with no unconfessed or forgiven Mortal sin. WHAT is her understanding of Mortal sin and Sacramental Confession?

1 Peter 1:16
Because it is written: You shall 
be holy, for I am holy

Matthew 5:48
Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect

(Mt. 13: 10-15) “[10] And his disciples came and said to him: Why speakest thou to them in parables? = (This term is to be rightly understood “as speaking to them in mysteries”) … [11] Who answered and said to them: Because to you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven: but to them it is not given. [12] For he that hath, to him shall be given, and he shall abound: but he that hath not, from him shall be taken away that also which he hath. [13] Therefore do I speak to them in parables: because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. [14] And the prophecy of Isaias is fulfilled in them, who saith: By hearing you shall hear, and shall not understand: and seeing you shall see, and shall not perceive. [15] For the heart of this people is grown gross, and with their ears they have been dull of hearing, and their eyes they have shut: lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

(Mark 4: 10-12) “[10] And when he was alone, the twelve that were with him asked him the parable. (The meaning hear is “the mystery”)[11] And he said to them: To you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but to them that are without, all things are done in parables (Meaning: hidden and concealed from them): [12] That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand: lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.”

(John 12:37-40) “[37] And whereas he had done so many miracles before them, they believed not in him: [38] That the saying of Isaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he said: Lord, who hath believed our hearing? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed? [39] Therefore they could not believe, because Isaias said again: [40] He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart, that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.”

WHY Does Purgatory Exist?

(10 Because God, in order to be our “Perfect”; Fair and Just God; In an absolute sense had to create a Fair and Just; dare I say; “LITTLE-SINNERS” (1 Tim. 2:3-4) “[3] For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour, [4] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth. [5] For there is one God, and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus”

(1 John 5: 16-17)” [16] He that knoweth his brother to sin a sin which is not to death, let him ask, and life shall be given to him, who sinneth not to death. There is a sin unto death: for that I say not that any man ask. [17] All iniquity is sin. And there is a sin unto death”

God cannot treat the candy bar thief the same way He would treat a murderer; NOR can God who IS PERFECT; permit any-human-Soul- to enter in to heaven; which too is either not “perfect” upon death of the that Soul’s mortal body; Or, OR cannot be made “perfect” by purging its sins, OR the Temporal Punishment which ALL sins accuse; (even forgiven sins- I’m truly sorry that you were not aware of that contingent.)

End part Part 3 of 4

A 4 part Series on the evidence for Purgatory by Patrick

A Series of 4 consecutive POST on the topic of Purgatory (explained and Justified).

This is Part 4 of 4

Why don’t Protestants get it? 

Please forgive me if I touch a nerve here but to root of the word “Protestant” is apply “to PROTEST!  … It seems to me, and undereducated apologetics teacher; that the answer is self-defeating; or at least self-destructing. Protestants demand the “right” (where that is in the bible is not evident)..” to protest”. And PROTEST TEY DO! The common assumption (Thank you Mr. Luther who is quoted as teaching Cf. “everyone should be their own priest and interpret the bible as their conscience leads them. (He later took this back; but he had already loosed the Genie of self-pride: I Do know more and I Do know better than God “his church”; YOU, and everyone else too. And now after 500 years there are thousands of Protestant churches; each self-identified by its own set of faith-beliefs (despite Ephesians 4: 4-5 “[4] One body (Means just One Church)  and one Spirit; as you are called in one hope of your calling. [5] One Lord, one faith, (Means exactly what it says…. God has only One True set of faith beliefs) one baptism”…

That dear friends is the penalty (Ignorance –imposed) for abandoning; and so often, not even challenging why after 1,600 years of being RIGHT; the Catholic Church somehow INSTANTLY became wrong because Luther, Calvin, Wycliffe, Knox, Smith, and now thousands (and increasing daily), other very human men; claim to know more and know better than Jesus Christ and His One True Church, with its now 2,000 year old Church One True set of Faith beliefs; which alone ought to ring caution alarm bells in “your” (“they & them”) heand’s. But God (Not the Catholic Church, or me) has you so confused; so filled with self-righteous pride; that many can’t even think logically. I have evidenced this many times over the years of my ministry…. I’m always amazed at this phenomenon; but long past being surprised by it. And it saddens me, because I see so much wrongly place placed ”faith” (and soooo many varieties of it) ; amidst so very much fervent LOVE of Jesus. … I’m praying with you for your salvation, because like My Church; I just don’t know. And sadly, I too have family “in your boat.”

HERE IS THE “CRUX OF THE MATTER” on precisely WHY Protestants don’t “get it.” (Or the Bible , or God’s Truth”)

They always, every-time; in every church and every “New” Protestant church…

     Because they begin with false premises (the Bible is ours; All Christian faiths are “the same”, (or equal); you have your truth and we have ours…..

     The result is necessarily yet another FAILED –Effort; another failed promise. “TRUTH” had already been born nearly 1,600 years before the Protestant Revolution; its name was and IS “Jesus.” (John 14:6)” [6] Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me.” … Those who are able to see that each word is singular tense; AND comprehend the consequences of this; as the NORM, are Informed Catholics; those who think the bible is “MY Bible; MY Christian book” … well, those are the ones we Catholics need to keep praying for. Amen!

 

          Here then is the claim of purgatories power and purpose. Consider prayerfully this puzzle:

One Soul dies with the unconfessed; unremitted sin of stealing that candy bar from Walmart we shared earlier (a “venial sin”)

The Other Soul dies having participated in Adultery; and unrepentant; unconfessed and unforgiven dies (1 Jn. 5:16-17) … (a ”Mortal-sin”)

          Now because God is as He HAS to be; “Fair” and “Just” sits in final and instant upon-death-Justice; what is He going to decide?

Surely both souls do not deserve the same punishment OR reward:

The Adulterer is clearly Hell bound; having chosen it for himself. (Please do read On.)

          BUT the candy-bar- stealer still has sin on his Soul; he’s NOT “perfect” as God DEMANDS all Souls MUST be to enter into the Beatific Vision. What doe GOD do with such Souls? And what about the countless Souls that have; yet unrepaid DEBT, that God Himself applies to every sin, on every Soul in Divine Justice. This debt too; even if a person dies with ALL OF THEIR SINS “FORGIVEN”; their very likely (especially if this comes as a surprise to you) still not, at least fully REPAID in this category of DEBT, so all these Souls too…What happens to them? GOD being God can’t (Even GOD is literally incapable of lowering His “Be Perfect” standard;… so what happens to all these Souls?

          This friends explains the “Why God HAD TO CREATE Purgatory.” Now read for its biblical evidence and explanation (for which; being pooped), I Am so very grateful.

 

Purgatory has the power and authority to repay the debt of both unconfessed and forgiven venial sins at the time of our death AND repay the debt of Temporal Punishment; thus perfecting souls so that they are enabled to enter into heaven.

          A QUESTION for you: Where in the term “Bible” in the bible?… The FACT that it does not appear in THAT word, does not exclude its reality.  The same is said of the term “purgatory.” Amen! Patrick

May God be with each of us.

“Where is Purgatory in the Bible?

http://www.aboutcatholics.com/beliefs/where-is-purgatory-in-the-bible/

By Andres Ortiz

The Bible does not mention the exact word “purgatory,” but instead it makes reference to a place which can be understood as what is referred to as purgatory. To claim that purgatory does not exist because the exact word does not appear in Scripture is a failure to understand Scripture.

What exactly is Purgatory?

The Bible contains references to many Christian doctrines, but fails to call them out by name. One might as well even deny that there is something called the Bible because no such name is found in the Bible. Furthermore, one might as well deny the Trinity, Incarnation, and so forth because these exact words are not found in the Bible.  (inserted by Pjm: neither are Catholic, Protestant … do you get the drift?)

The name does not make the place; the place must exist first, then we give it a name. We call this place “purgatory” because it means “a cleansing place.” Therein souls are purged from the small stains of sin, which prevent their immediate entrance into Heaven.

In the Old Testament

The first mention of Purgatory in the Bible is in 2 Maccabees 12:46: “Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from sin.”

Some people do not accept Maccabees as book of the Bible. This is unfortunate since it is that their Bibles have been edited and are missing books. (Find out Why Catholic Bibles Are Different) Even if a person does not accept the book of Maccabees, it at least has historical value for we can learn what the pre-Christian community believed.

In Chapter 12 of Second Maccabees we read Scriptural proof for Purgatory and evidence that the Jews had sacrifices offered for those of their brothers who had lost their lives in battle. That the Jews prayed for the dead shows that they believed in a place where they could be helped (which we now call purgatory) and that the prayers of their living brothers and sisters could help them in that place. This is closely related to the Catholic doctrine of the communion of saints.

During the Reformation in the 15th century, when Martin Luther was deciding to remove books from the Bible, these words in the book of Maccabees had so clearly favored Catholic teaching, that the whole book was removed from the Protestant Bible. Unfortunately for Protestants, even if they feel that the book was not inspired, it still tells us of the practice of God’s chosen people.

In the New Testament

In Matthew 5:26 and Luke 12:59 Christ is condemning sin and speaks of liberation only after expiation. “Amen, I say to you, you will not be released until you have paid the last penny.” Now we know that no last penny needs to be paid in Heaven and from Hell there is no liberation at all; hence the reference must apply to a third place.

Matthew 12:32 says, “And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.” Here Jesus speaks of sin against the Holy Spirit. The implication is that some sins can be forgiven in the world to come. We know that in Hell there is no liberation and in Heaven nothing imperfect can enter it as we see in the next part. Sin is not forgiven when a soul reaches its final destination because in heaven there is no need for forgiveness of sin and in hell the choice to go there is already made.

Revelation 21:27: “…but nothing unclean will enter it, nor anyone who does abominable things or tells lies.” The place that is to be entered (the place to which this passage refers) is heaven (read the text around it for context).

The Bible clearly implies a place for an intermediate state of purification after we die in the many passages which tell that God will reward or punish according to a person’s life.

What if purgatory really doesn’t exist?

Ponder the following example. Imagine a Christian man, justified by the Lord, loses his temper and yells at his next door neighbors for letting their dog dig a hole in his yard. We can see that the man treated his neighbors rudely, albeit the neighbor’s behavior was also reprehensible. His actions would be considered a light sin (called venial sins by the Catholic Church). It’s not of the same moral weight as theft or murder, but it’s still a sin.

After shouting at the neighbors, with all the anger and stress in his body the man walks into his house, has a heart attack, and dies having just committed a small sin in the final moments of his life. Remember, this man is Christian and justified by the Lord, yet has committed a sin. Does he go to heaven or does he go to hell? Are all sins created equal? No, all sins are not equal and even justified men of the Lord can make mistakes and sin.

If purgatory didn’t exist, the man would go to hell for his small sin. God’s mercy is so great and our God is a just God that it seems unfathomable that he would condemn a justified man to hell for a small, yet unrepented sin. The man’s soul is dirty. His actions have defiled his soul, but not the point where he has cut himself off from God. Only mortal sins cut off a person from God’s grace. So, the man, having been justified by the Lord, is destined for heaven, yet his soul is defiled by his sin (Matthew 12:36, 15:18). His soul is in need of cleansing because nothing defiled can enter heaven. This is the purpose of purgatory. Out of mercy and love God sends the man through purgatory on his way to heaven so that his soul can be purified to be able to join God in heaven.

Remember, purgatory is not a second chance for conversion; the man is already justified. If there is no place of intermediate state of purification, the man would be damned to hell! Who would be saved? Those who teach against purgatory teach an unreasonable doctrine. Will Catholics go to heaven?

So, why do non-Catholics reject a teaching so full of consolation? My guess is that they want to believe that the merits of Christ applied to the sinner who trusts in Him, will remove all sin past, present, and future abdicating all responsibility for sin after justification. Yet this is also unreasonable. Only Jesus’ death on the cross makes us worthy before God the Father. We cannot stand before him on our own merits. We need Jesus Christ. Yet we also have personal responsibility in our justification before the Lord.

Luke 12:48:

Much will be required of the person entrusted with much, and still more will be demanded of the person entrusted with more.

If we accept Christ’s sacrifice on the cross, confess him as Lord, yet commit bad actions, God judges accordingly.

Matthew 12:37:

By your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.

Our acceptance of the sacrifice of Christ on the cross does not abdicate our responsibility to live the Gospel. Salvation is not assured. Salvation is not by faith alone for the Bible says that we will be held accountable by our words and that much will be entrusted to us! Nowhere in the Bible does it say salvation is by faith alone. This teaching is un-Scriptural. Rather the Scriptures say that faith without works is dead (James 2:26).

While Jesus can be the only acceptable sacrifice to God for our sins, it doesn’t give us a license to sin. Nor does justification by the Lord preserve us from sin. Even a justified man can commit a sin. Therefore, even though Christ’s blood on the cross makes us right before God, God still requires much from us in return. He requires us to die to ourselves each day and to choose him in everything we do. It simply doesn’t fit with God’s justice for a person to be off the hook simply because at some point in the past they became justified. We have a duty to God to obey him for if we do not obey God we will be punished according to his justice. Purgatory is part of God’s justice. END QUOTES

Purgatory is “Heaven Prep”

FROM: http://www.catholic.com/tracts/purgatory

“The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven,” which is experienced by those “who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified” (CCC 1030). It notes that “this final purification of the elect . . . is entirely different from the punishment of the damned” (CCC 1031).

The purification is necessary because, as Scripture teaches, nothing unclean will enter the presence of God in heaven (Rev. 21:27) and, while we may die with our mortal sins forgiven, there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment (THAT’S THE DEBT God Himself applies to EVERY sin)  even to due to sins already forgiven.

Two Judgments

When we die, we undergo what is called the particular, or individual, judgment. Scripture says that “it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment” (Heb. 9:27). We are judged instantly and receive our reward, for good or ill. We know at once what our final destiny will be. At the end of time, when Jesus returns, there will come the general judgment to which the Bible refers, for example, in Matthew 25:31-32: “When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.” In this general judgment all our sins will be publicly revealed (Luke 12:2–5).

Augustine said, in The City of God, that “temporary punishments are suffered by some in this life only, by others after death, by others both now and then; but all of them before that last and strictest judgment” (21:13). It is between the particular and general judgments, then, that the soul is purified of the remaining consequences of sin: “I tell you, you will never get out till you have paid the very last copper” (Luke 12:59).

Money, Money, Money

One argument anti-Catholics often use to attack purgatory is the idea that the Catholic Church makes money from promulgating the doctrine. Without purgatory, the claim asserts, the Church would go broke. Any number of anti-Catholic books claim the Church owes the majority of its wealth to this doctrine. But the numbers just don’t add up.

When a Catholic requests a memorial Mass for the dead—that is, a Mass said for the benefit of someone in purgatory—it is customary to give the parish priest a stipend, on the principles that the laborer is worth his hire (Luke 10:7) and that those who preside at the altar share the altar’s offerings (1 Cor. 9:13–14). In the United States, a stipend is commonly around five dollars; but the indigent do not have to pay anything. A few people, of course, freely offer more. This money goes to the parish priest, and priests are only allowed to receive one such stipend per day. No one gets rich on five dollars a day, and certainly not the Church, which does not receive the money anyway.

But look at what happens on a Sunday. There are often hundreds of people at Mass. In a crowded parish, there may be thousands. Many families and individuals deposit five dollars or more into the collection basket; others deposit less. A few give much more. A parish might have four or five or six Masses on a Sunday. The total from the Sunday collections far surpasses the paltry amount received from the memorial Masses.

A Catholic “Invention”?

Fundamentalists may be fond of saying the Catholic Church “invented” the doctrine of purgatory to make money, but they have difficulty saying just when. Most professional anti-Catholics—the ones who make their living attacking “Romanism”—seem to place the blame on Pope Gregory the Great, who reigned from A.D. 590–604.

But that hardly accounts for the request of Monica, mother of Augustine, who asked her son, in the fourth century, to remember her soul in his Masses. This would make no sense if she thought her soul would not benefit from prayers, as would be the case if she were in hell or in the full glory of heaven.

Nor does ascribing the doctrine to Gregory explain the graffiti in the catacombs, where Christians during the persecutions of the first three centuries recorded prayers for the dead. Indeed, some of the earliest Christian writings outside the New Testament, like the Acts of Paul and Thecla and the Martyrdom of Perpetua and Felicity (both written during the second century), refer to the Christian practice of praying for the dead. Such prayers would have been offered only if Christians believed in purgatory, even if they did not use that name for it. (See Catholic Answers’ Fathers Know Best tract The Existence of Purgatory for quotations from these and other early Christian sources.)

Why No Protests?

Whenever a date is set for the “invention” of purgatory, you can point to historical evidence to show the doctrine was in existence before that date. Besides, if at some point the doctrine was pulled out of a clerical hat, why does ecclesiastical history record no protest against it?

A study of the history of doctrines indicates that Christians in the first centuries were up in arms (sometimes quite literally) if anyone suggested the least change in beliefs. They were extremely conservative people who tested a doctrine’s truth by asking, Was this believed by our ancestors? Was it handed on from the apostles? Surely belief in purgatory would be considered a great change, if it had not been believed from the first—so where are the records of protests?

They don’t exist. There is no hint at all, in the oldest writings available to us (or in later ones, for that matter), that “true believers” in the immediate post-apostolic years spoke of purgatory as a novel doctrine. They must have understood that the oral teaching of the apostles, what Catholics call tradition, and the Bible not only failed to contradict the doctrine, but, in fact, confirmed it.

It is no wonder, then, that those who deny the existence of purgatory tend to touch upon only briefly the history of the belief. They prefer to claim that the Bible speaks only of heaven and hell. Wrong. It speaks plainly of a third condition, commonly called the limbo of the Fathers, where the just who had died before the redemption were waiting for heaven to be opened to them. After his death and before his resurrection, Christ visited those experiencing the limbo of the Fathers and preached to them the good news that heaven would now be opened to them (1 Pet. 3:19). These people thus were not in heaven, but neither were they experiencing the torments of hell.

Some have speculated that the limbo of the Fathers is the same as purgatory. This may or may not be the case. However, even if the limbo of the Fathers is not purgatory, its existence shows that a temporary, intermediate state is not contrary to Scripture. Look at it this way. If the limbo of the Fathers was purgatory, then this one verse directly teaches the existence of purgatory. If the limbo of the Fathers was a different temporary state, then the Bible at least says such a state can exist. It proves there can be more than just heaven and hell.

“Purgatory Not in Scripture”

Some Fundamentalists also charge, as though it actually proved something, “The word purgatory is nowhere found in Scripture.” This is true, and yet it does not disprove the existence of purgatory or the fact that belief in it has always been part of Church teaching. The words Trinity and Incarnation aren’t in Scripture either, yet those doctrines are clearly taught in it. Likewise, Scripture teaches that purgatory exists, even if it doesn’t use that word and even if 1 Peter 3:19 refers to a place other than purgatory.

Christ refers to the sinner who “will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come” (Matt. 12:32), suggesting that one can be freed after death of the consequences of one’s sins. Similarly, Paul tells us that, when we are judged, each man’s work will be tried. And what happens if a righteous man’s work fails the test? “He will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire” (1 Cor 3:15). Now this loss, this penalty, can’t refer to consignment to hell, since no one is saved there; and heaven can’t be meant, since there is no suffering (“fire”) there. The Catholic doctrine of purgatory alone explains this passage.

Then, of course, there is the Bible’s approval of prayers for the dead: “In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the dead to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin” (2 Macc. 12:43–45). Prayers are not needed by those in heaven, and no one can help those in hell. That means some people must be in a third condition, at least temporarily. This verse so clearly illustrates the existence of purgatory that, at the time of the Reformation, Protestants had to cut the books of the Maccabees out of their Bibles in order to avoid accepting the doctrine.

Prayers for the dead and the consequent doctrine of purgatory have been part of the true religion since before the time of Christ. Not only can we show it was practiced by the Jews of the time of the Maccabees, but it has even been retained by Orthodox Jews today, who recite a prayer known as the Mourner’s Kaddish for eleven months after the death of a loved one so that the loved one may be purified. It was not the Catholic Church that added the doctrine of purgatory. Rather, any change in the original teaching has taken place in the Protestant churches, which rejected a doctrine that had always been believed by Jews and Christians.

Why Go To Purgatory?

Why would anyone go to purgatory? To be cleansed, for “nothing unclean shall enter [heaven]” (Rev. 21:27). Anyone who has not been completely freed of sin and its effects is, to some extent, “unclean.” Through repentance he may have gained the grace needed to be worthy of heaven, which is to say, he has been forgiven and his soul is spiritually alive. But that’s not sufficient for gaining entrance into heaven. He needs to be cleansed completely.

Fundamentalists claim, as an article in Jimmy Swaggart’s magazine, The Evangelist, put it, that “Scripture clearly reveals that all the demands of divine justice on the sinner have been completely fulfilled in Jesus Christ. It also reveals that Christ has totally redeemed, or purchased back, that which was lost. The advocates of a purgatory (and the necessity of prayer for the dead) say, in effect, that the redemption of Christ was incomplete. . . . It has all been done for us by Jesus Christ, there is nothing to be added or done by man.”

It is entirely correct to say that Christ accomplished all of our salvation for us on the cross. But that does not settle the question of how this redemption is applied to us. Scripture reveals that it is applied to us over the course of time through, among other things, the process of sanctification through which the Christian is made holy. Sanctification involves suffering (Rom. 5:3–5), and purgatory is the final stage of sanctification that some of us need to undergo before we enter heaven. Purgatory is the final phase of Christ’s applying to us the purifying redemption that he accomplished for us by his death on the cross.

No Contradiction

The Fundamentalist resistance to the biblical doctrine of purgatory presumes there is a contradiction between Christ’s redeeming us on the cross and the process by which we are sanctified. There isn’t. And a Fundamentalist cannot say that suffering in the final stage of sanctification conflicts with the sufficiency of Christ’s atonement without saying that suffering in the early stages of sanctification also presents a similar conflict. The Fundamentalist has it backward: Our suffering in sanctification does not take away from the cross. Rather, the cross produces our sanctification, which results in our suffering, beause “[f]or the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant; later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness” (Heb. 12:11).

Nothing Unclean

Purgatory makes sense because there is a requirement that a soul not just be declared to be clean, but actually be clean, before a man may enter into eternal life. After all, if a guilty soul is merely “covered,” if its sinful state still exists but is officially ignored, then it is still a guilty soul. It is still unclean.

Catholic theology takes seriously the notion that “nothing unclean shall enter heaven.” From this it is inferred that a less than cleansed soul, even if “covered,” remains a dirty soul and isn’t fit for heaven. It needs to be cleansed or “purged” of its remaining imperfections. The cleansing occurs in purgatory. Indeed, the necessity of the purging is taught in other passages of Scripture, such as 2 Thessalonians 2:13, which declares that God chose us “to be saved through sanctification by the Spirit.” Sanctification is thus not an option, something that may or may not happen before one gets into heaven. It is an absolute requirement, as Hebrews 12:14 states that we must strive “for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord.”

 

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            And friends; especially you “Anonymous” on THAT note, I wish you well.  I do offer a prayer here that ANY and ALL (if any?) replies will be Christian; with charity; logical with evidence of your “counter-points.” You cannot demand of Me, to PROVE my point; and NOT expect the very same of yourself. Such would be hypocritical and prideful.

         In the name of Jesus I pray: Lord enteral of us into your Light; for you have stated it clearly and succinctly:

(John 14:6) … Each in singular-tense; God cannot error in what He teaches; but “we” can choose to error in how to understand it. But understand simply choosing to disagree (1) doesn’t change the truth (2)) what might the consequences be?… “[6] Jesus saith Thomas the Catholic Apostle asked Jesus… HOW CAN WE KNOW THE WAY?” and Jesus replied to Him : “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me.”

Amen,

Patrick

Bishop Schneider: Lockdown is a trial that can bring about great ‘spiritual benefit’

 

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May 22, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Bishop Athanasius Schneider said Catholics should accept the situation brought about by the pandemic as a trial, suggesting that such acceptance will produce great spiritual benefit for the Church, “a greater spiritual benefit as if we would not have experienced such a situation.”

Bishop Schneider, along with Fr. Linus Clovis, a canon lawyer of the Archdiocese of Castries, St. Lucia in the West Indies, spoke during a “Question and Answer” session after their talks at the Rome Life Forum last week, delivered online this year because of travel and gathering restrictions due to the global Wuhan virus lockdowns.

This “current purifying divine intervention has the power to show all of us what is truly essential in the Church: the Eucharistic sacrifice of Christ with His Body and Blood and the eternal salvation of immortal souls,” declared Bishop Schneider.

Schneider acknowledged that some may not return to Mass attendance after the pandemic restrictions are relaxed and churches are restored to normal activity, but he seemed to indicate that this might not be entirely bad.

“In general, I think that the time of deprivation of Holy Mass and the sacraments will have the function of purifying the wheat and separating it from the weeds, as Holy Scripture says (see Mt. 3:12),” said Schneider.

“Perhaps those Catholics who were so accustomed to the Holy of Holies that they came to consider it as something ordinary and common will experience a spiritual conversion and understand and treat the Holy Eucharist henceforth as extraordinary and sublime,” he suggested.

“The current tribulations teach us and train us to remain always faithful to the Lord and to our holy faith, according to the words of the Holy Scripture: ‘The one who endures to the end will be saved’ (Mt. 10:22) and “Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life” (Rev. 2:10),” he continued. “And only this matters.”

Asked how Catholics can make this period of separation from the Sacraments a fruitful time instead of a time of bitterness and sadness, Bishop Schneider responded with confident optimism.

“This situation forces Catholic families to experience literally the meaning of a domestic church,” said Schneider. “In the absence of the possibility to assist Holy Mass even on Sundays, Catholic parents should gather their family in their home. They should dedicate a holy hour of prayers to sanctify the Day of the Lord and to unite themselves spiritually with the Holy Masses which are celebrated by priests behind closed doors even in their towns or in their vicinity.”

“A Sunday holy hour of a domestic church could be done for instance in the following way: prayer of the Rosary, reading of the Sunday Gospel, Act of Contrition, Act of Spiritual Communion, Litany, prayer for all who suffer and die, for all who are persecuted, prayer for the Pope and the priests, prayer for the end of the current physical and spiritual epidemic,” continued Schneider.  “Furthermore, on Sundays parents could gather their children in the afternoon or in the evening and read to them from the Lives of the Saints, especially those stories drawn from times of persecution of the Church.”

Schneider was also asked, “How should we express our disappointment in our bishops’ leadership with regard to finding ways to administer the sacraments during the pandemic?” and “When does obedience to the bishop trump the obedience to Christ?”

“The lay faithful should speak and respectfully demand the return of public Masses and also organize outdoor Masses or other creative forms of celebrating worthily Holy Mass,” he asserted.

“I ask you, please, to importune the shepherds, to disturb them, all of us shepherds, so that we can give you the milk of grace, of doctrine and of leadership,” pleaded Bishop Schneider.  “Importune (us)!”

“We need to live out the message of Fatima – each one of us individually, in our families, and in our parishes,” said Fr. Clovis, when asked how the faithful can demand that the hierarchy fulfill Our Lady’s requests. “We can’t, but we can request it.”

He encouraged the formation of small ‘Fatima groups’ throughout the world that might serve, support, and educate priests who in turn might be able to influence their bishops.

He noted that several countries have already been consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by their bishops, including New Zealand, Australia, the United Kingdom, the United States, and other countries in Europe.

Ultimately, he foresees that “In God’s time even the Holy Father (will) consecrate Russia as Our Lady requires.”

“Don’t lose heart,” encouraged Fr. Clovis, because Our Lady said, “It will be done.”

Fr. Clovis discussed the importance of regular confession, reading the lives of the saints, and wearing a Miraculous Medal and Brown Scapular to form devoted Catholic families.

Above all, he urged everyone to develop the habit of praying the Rosary daily.

“This is a way in which we can reform ourselves, our families, and the world,” he said.


 

In His Name – Wednesday, May 27, 2020 Joseph LaCombe (Reblogged just 4 U)

In His Name – Wednesday, May 27, 2020

“Holy Father, keep them in your name that you have given me,so that they may be one just as we are one.”

Jesus

No one ever prayed more for us that Jesus. God Himself. Think about that. The One who created us, the One Who can do anything, has prayed for us, more than anyone. That is truly amazing and unimaginable, considering there is a lot of praying going on in the world right now. An awful lot of praying.

What it must have been like to feel that oneness with God, the oneness that Jesus had with God the Father. I wish I had a fraction – just a minute fraction – of that with Jesus right now. Sometimes I think I do. But other times I’m not so sure.

I have really struggled with this stay-at-home order.  Really struggled. I did not realize how much I truly needed other people, how much I needed community, and this is coming from a known introvert.

Believe me – I’m thankful. I’m thankful I got my garage cleaned out and organized. I’m thankful the house is in order. I’m thankful for the technology that allows me to work remotely and allows our parish to livestream Mass and evening prayers and rosaries.

And I’m most thankful that my family, myself, and those around me are healthy.

But we need community. We need in-person community, where even if it is through a facemask, some plexiglass, or from a distance of 6 feet or more – we still need to feel the presence of others. It is not the same through a screen.

And perhaps this is one thing we will learn from this. One thing of many, hopefully. Paul spread the Word of Christ, and evangelized in His Name, with others, touching them, being there, before them. God came to us, in the Name of Jesus, to live with us, to be one of us, to touch us, to heal us. And to save us.

He couldn’t do that from afar. No, He had to come and be one of us.

God had all the tools, but it was only through His Real Presence and being one of us that He could truly save us.

Jesus is One with God, but yet He came to be one with us. And He prayed for us, more than anyone, and He is doing so today – praying with His Father, in His Name that we learn from this and grow from this.

But He didn’t do it through a livestream. And so while technology is all and good, while being able to do things remotely and virtually is great, perhaps we will realize that technology is just a tool, a tool that we use when we need it, to make the job easier. But it is not the end all be all. It is not a replacement for community.

Perhaps this situation will help us to yearn for human contact, for working together with our coworkers, feeding on their energy, attending a Mass and feeling the power of prayer, and the Real Presence of Christ before us, and within us as we become One with Him in the Blessed Sacrament.

I yearn for this. I need this and I know all of you do as well. We are living in a new normal. The world will never be what it was, but perhaps that’s not a bad thing in this case. Perhaps that’s not a bad thing because we are not of the world – we are of Him. Good things come from change. Good things come from suffering.

Good things come… In His Name