“Do Your Best To Explain Romans 5”

Do Your Best To Explain Romans 5

One chapter I’ve been reading maybe more than any other chapter in the Bible, that is Romans 5. Since it’s a description of the atonement, it’s a very central chapter of the Bible. Do your best to explain the whole, or just a part of Romans 5. Let us discuss this chapter and do our best to understand it. Christ love, P” {Not Patrick}

https://conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/a-catholic-reading-of-the-book-of-romans/

 “Most Reverend” Father John A. Hardon S. J.; one of the most respected Theologians of the 20th Century {May he rest in Peace} taught this about TRUTH:

“Truth is the condition of grace; it is the source of grace; it is the channel of grace; it is the Divinely Ordained requirement of grace.”

This explains I think the huge and ever-growing multiplicity of non-Catholic-Christian Churches; EACH with its own set of faith beliefs, based upon their self-interpretation of the Bible…. Where is the Truth in this reality?  I am not saying that they have no grace”; I put forth that rather they have insufficient grace.

In taking up this challenge to explain Romans chapter Five, I wish to acknowledge the comprehensive and thought-provoking work of Mr. Tony Listi, from the above shared site that I encourage all to visit. All my quotes from Mr. Listi will be noted in script….

I will began my attempt to explain Romans chapter five by pointing out a few critical and foundational facts.

The book of Roman’s is far more a peninsula than the island many desire it, or perhaps, only obediently think it to be.

The Bible is a Catholic Book. By this I mean that it was a book “birthed” by and through the RCC; it is assembled {OT}, and fully authored {NT} by men historically known today to have been Early Catholics. This is historically provable, and hence not debatable.

The Bible was fully authored by the end of the 1st. Century; some 1,400 years prior to the Reformation’s Founder; Martin Luther; who was an apostate Catholic Monk’s launching the smorgasbord he made of the Catholic Faith into his personal religion designed as a “better” and easier alternative to Catholicism.

The Bible’s full assembly and Canon date to the 4th Century, still about 1,000 years prior to the illegitimate {not biblically provable as God desired} birth of Protestantism, in the 16th. Century.

The God Inspired Bible, was assembled and authored by Catholics; who at the time of its assembly and authorship; intended exclusively for fellow Catholics. It is quite unlikely that these Fathers would have foreseen the Great Eastern Schism of 1054 AD, or the later Protestant revolution of the 16th And once again history proves this point, making it undebatable.

For the sake of continuity, like Mr. Listi, I to will use the RSV Bible.

The Bible itself warns against building the foundation of Faith on just one book; one teaching.

Because the Bible is a “Catholic Book”; one can, could and should understand why Jesus entrusted its teachings to the one Church and Faith that He Personally founded; the RCC, which is also historically provable, and even Biblically provable when correctly understood/

Another preliminary point is the need to recognize that the terms ”Faith” and “Obedience” are inseperatable in order to gain a right understanding of Paul’s teachings, especially in Roman’s Chapter Five.

Matt.4:4 “But he answered, “It is written, `Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'”

2Tim.3:16 -17 “All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.”

2Pet.1:18 – 21 “We heard this voice borne from heaven, for we were with him on the holy mountain. And we have the prophetic word made more sure. You will do well to pay attention to this as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.  First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.”

2Pet.3:14 – 18 “Therefore, beloved, since you wait for these, be zealous to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace. And count the forbearance of our Lord as salvation. So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, beware lest you be carried away with the error of lawless men and lose your own stability. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen”

  • Because Roman’s chapter five is only part of Paul’s teaching; it is prudent to look at and include passages from other verses that ”flesh out” and better reflect the fullness of Paul’s instructions.

I now begin my review and comments pertaining to the Book of Romans’; Chapter Five.

Rom. 1: 5-7 “through whom WE  have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith for the sake of his name among all the nations,
[6] including yourselves who are called to belong to Jesus Christ;
[7] To all God’s beloved in Rome, who are called to be saints:

REPLY: Verse 5:

1 The “WE” here are Catholics

2 Obedience of faith refers to the Catholic-faith; full “obedience” not being an option, but a command. SEE Eph. 4:5 and Mt 28: 19-20

Verse 6:

To belong to Christ demands full knowledge of what HE wishes to teach and convey; there is no room here for one’s personal opinions.

Verse seven

Hence the name: Roman Catholic Church

1: 11-12 “[11] For I long to see you, that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to strengthen you, [12] that is, that we may be mutually encouraged by each other’s faith, both yours and mine

REPLY: verses 2-4 Deal with Divine Justice: “Judge not least you also be judged”; “look first into your own eye before trying to remove the plank from your brothers eye” {Mt 7:3}

2: 2-10 “[2] We know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who do such things. [3] Do you suppose, O man, that when you judge those who do such things and yet do them yourself, you will escape the judgment of God? [4] Or do you presume upon the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience? Do you not know that God’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? [5] But by your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. [6] For he will render to every man according to his works: [7] to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; [8] but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury. [9] There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, [10] but glory and honor and peace for every one who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek.

Verse 5: Seems to be addressed to the Converted- Jewish community. Advising them to open their ears and their hearts to GOD’S Truths.

Verse 6: is an “actions DO HAVE consequences” lesson. What we do and why we do it matters. … Each of us will be judged on what we did, or failed to do {WORKS}

Verses 7-8: teaches us to place God first in all of our decisions: {Mt. 6:33} and that we will be judged on what we do or fail to do.

Verses 9-10:  God in order to be GOD; must and will each of us fairly; on what we do or fail to do; NOT on our past beliefs.  Once converted the scales of Divine Justice looks to the present and future; not the past.

2: 12-23 “[12]All who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. [13] For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified

REPLY: Verses 12: Speaks of foreknowledge of sin; here Paul addresses the Jews who could and should have known the written Laws of God through Moses {the Commandants; precepts and ordinances}; because to know something is wrong and then do it anyway increases one’s personal culpability.

Verse 13: Teaches simply knowing God’s Truths, does not excuse not actually doing them; such actions increases one’s personal guilt. In other words God does not seek OUR opinions of His commands, precepts and ordnances. God expects full obedience.

2:20 [20] a corrector of the foolish, a teacher of children, having in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth — [21] you then who teach others, will you not teach yourself? While you preach against stealing, do you steal?

REPLY: Verse 21: What teachers “teach” ought to be learned by themselves too.

Verse 22: This then is a lesson of guilt by foreknowledge. When a teacher does not practice wat “they preach,” they are guilty of not only the sin; bit also their foreknowledge of it and the scandal their example has set.

3:20-21 -26 [21] But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from law, although the law and the prophets bear witness to it, [22] the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction;
[23] since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, [24] they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, [25] whom God put forward as an expiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins; [26] it was to prove at the present time that he himself is righteous and that he justifies him who has faith in Jesus.”

Verse 21 1 is the same teaching of 2:22 above

2 Is the introduction of FAITH as an element of Justification; and once again ties obedience to what God demands as part and partial of Faith’s part in Justification. One cannot be Justified without knowing {and consequently incurring the obligation of obedience}; the absolute necessity of Jesus Christ and his Offer of graces.

3 All without distinction who are saved, are saved by the grace of Jesus Christ and knowledge of Him. “Faith.”

4 There is a necessary connection, a union between faith and grace that is undeniable, inescapable, and absolutely essential.

5 One cannot without, knowledge of Jesus and His grace, work their way into heaven; hence works alone {without grace} are worthless.

5 Nor can {will} Faith Alone result in Justification {Faith & grace are necessarily inseperatable}

6 Everyone will be judged based on what we did, could have done, and should have done {or known}. Gal. 2: 6: Judgement will be based upon what we should know, do and not do. Verse 6: teaches that faith in action is manifested through WORKS of charity.

7 Makes clear that God neither seeks nor desires OUR personal opinions and interpretations; but does demand that all listen to HIS Church and His Teachers.  Lk 10:16

Echoing the 2nd. Letter of James; Paul teaches that “Faith without charity is nothing.” James 2: 14-26

Mr. Listi: QUOTE: Again, Paul reiterates more explicitly now that everyone has sinned and thus is in need of “redemption which is in Christ Jesus.” The forgiveness of our sins through Jesus Christ, and thus our justification before God, is a free gift of God’s grace. And this forgiveness/justification (combined with our obedience when we are not sinning) is our salvation. We receive this forgiveness/justification “through faith.”


However, notice that he says that this forgiveness is for “former sins.” How on earth does the Protestant explain this? According to common- Protestantism, all sins (past, present, and future) are forgiven instantly the moment one professes faith in Jesus. As a Catholic, the only thing I can think of is that St. Paul has baptism in mind, which does forgive all previous sins but NOT the sins that one commits after baptism. Another sacrament is required to forgive those future sins after they have been committed
“  END QUOTES

8: Verse 23 This is correct: Paul was indeed speaking of Sacramental Baptism which Verse #25 verifies.

4:2-8 [2] For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. [3] For what does the scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness.” [4] Now to one who works, his wages are not reckoned as a gift but as his due. [5] And to one who does not work but trusts him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness. [6] So also David pronounces a blessing upon the man to whom God reckons righteousness apart from works: [7] “Blessed are those whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; [8] blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not reckon his sin.”

REPLY:

Verse 2: No one can be Justified {saved} though works of THE LAW; nor ANY works unless combined with Faith, obedience and grace.

Verse 3: Abraham was as evidenced by this accounting Justified by all three necessary elements: By Faith; By Obedience which led to God’s grace.

Verse 4: It WE who choose for ourselves heaven or hell.

Verse 5: It is Faith; manifested in obedience that led to knowledge of Jesus and belief in Him through grace that saves

Verse 7:

  • It is our Amazing God who forgives; requiring only true sorrow {repentance} and then demands that we make a serious attempt to not sin that way again, with the aid of His grace {Firm purpose of amendment}.
  • Yahweh was satisfied with perhaps, a more liberal {pre-grace of Christ} condition of seeking forgiveness from G_D, whom they acknowledged as being able to forgive and willing to “cover over” {blot out} their sins.

Verse 8: This means that “blessed is the man who does not sin after being Baptized” {Douay Bible Commentary} And likewise Blessed is the man who having sinned after Baptism frequents the Sacrament of Confession {John 20:19-23}.

 

4: 14-16 “[14] If it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void. [15] For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression. 16] That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his descendants — not only to the adherents of the law but also to those who share the faith of Abraham, for he is the father of us all,

Verse 14: Is speaking of Jews and the Law Moses handed on to THEM.

4: 21-25 “[21] fully convinced that God was able to do what he had promised.
[22] That is why his faith was “reckoned to him as righteousness.” [23] But the words, “it was reckoned to him,” were written not for his sake alone, [24] but for ours also. It will be reckoned to us who believe in him that raised from the dead Jesus our Lord, [25] who was put to death for our trespasses and raised for our justification. 

[1] Therefore, since we are justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. [2] Through him we have obtained access to this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in our hope of sharing the glory of God. [3] More than that, we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, [4] and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, [5] and hope does not disappoint us, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit which has been given to us

 5: 9-11 “[9] Since, therefore, we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. [10] For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. [11] Not only so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received our reconciliation.

  5:16-19 “[16] And the free gift is not like the effect of that one man’s sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brings justification. [17] If, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. [18] Then as one man’s trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one man’s act of righteousness leads to acquittal and life for all men. [19] For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by one man’s obedience many will be made righteous.

5:20-21 [20] Law came in, to increase the trespass; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, [21] so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. 

6: 1-6 “[1]What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?[2] By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? [3] Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? [4] We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. [5] For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. [6] We know that our old self was crucified with him so that the sinful body might be destroyed, and we might no longer be enslaved to sin.

6: 14-16 “[14] For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. 15] What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! [16] Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to any one as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? 

6: 20-23 “[20]When you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.
[21] But then what return did you get from the things of which you are now ashamed? The end of those things is death. [22] But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the return you get is sanctification and its end, eternal life. [23] For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord

8: 1-2 “[1]There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
[2] For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death

8: 9-13 [9]But you are not in the flesh, you are in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
[10] But if Christ is in you, although your bodies are dead because of sin, your spirits are alive because of righteousness. [11] If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will give life to your mortal bodies also through his Spirit which dwells in you. 12]So then, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh –[13] for if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body you will live.

8: 29-30 “[29] For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the first-born among many brethren.
[30] And those whom he predestined he also called; and those whom he called he also justified; and those whom he justified he also glorified. 

8: 35-39 “[35] Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? [36] As it is written, “For thy sake we are being killed all the day long; we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.” [37] No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. [38] For I am sure that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,  [39] nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. 

9:30-32 “[30] What shall we say, then? That Gentiles who did not pursue righteousness have attained it, that is, righteousness through faith; [31] but that Israel who pursued the righteousness which is based on law did not succeed in fulfilling that law. [32] Why? Because they did not pursue it through faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone, 

13: 1-2 [1] Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. [2] Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

Luke.10: 16 “He who hears YOU hears me, and he who rejects YOU rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me.”  

Jn. 17:20[17] Sanctify them in the truth; thy word is truth. [18] As thou didst send me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. [19] And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be consecrated in truth. [20] “I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word…”

Mt. 10: 1-8 “[1] And he called to him his twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every disease and every infirmity.
[2] The names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zeb’edee, and John his brother; [3] Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; [4] Simon the Cananaean, and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him. [5] These twelve Jesus sent out, charging them, “Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans, [6] but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. [7] And preach as you go, saying, `The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’
[8] Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay.

13: 11-14 [11] Besides this you know what hour it is, how it is full time now for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed; [12] the night is far gone, the day is at hand. Let us then cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light; [13] let us conduct ourselves becomingly as in the day, not in reveling and drunkenness, not in debauchery and licentiousness, not in quarreling and jealousy. [14] But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires.

14: 1 [1] As for the man who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not for disputes over opinions.

15: 18- 20 [18] For I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has wrought through me to win obedience from the Gentiles, by word and deed, [19] by the power of signs and wonders, by the power of the Holy Spirit, so that from Jerusalem and as far round as Illyr’icum I have fully preached the gospel of Christ,
[20] thus making it my ambition to preach the gospel, not where Christ has already been named, lest I build on another man’s foundation,

John 21: 14: 17 “[14] This was now the third time that Jesus was revealed to the disciples after he was raised from the dead. [15] When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.” He said to HIM, “Feed my lambs.” [16] A second time he said to him, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.” He said to HIM, “Tend my sheep.” [17] He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, “Do you love me?” And he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to HIM, “Feed my sheep. “

To Jesus THROUGH Mary,

Patrick

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