A Salvation question & discussion

“Hi Patrick,

How do we atone for the sin that we have committed? How does a none Catholic deal with this? How does a Catholic deal with this? I plan on officially becoming Catholic this coming Spring but that doesn’t take care of NOW. If I die today, (crossing the street) will God take into account that I was trying to become Catholic and doing what needs to be done or will it not help at all? Do I need to see Fr. Edmond Kline, (Sacred Heart Catholic Church in Halstead) now and beg him to bring me into the Church today or can I wait till Spring?”

Thank you for your help,” End quotes


You ask such beautiful and profound questions. THANKS!

Be at peace; the sincere desire to enter in the Church that Christ Founded, is in emergencies, the same as actually having accomplished that goal. So you’re covered.

Wait until RCIA, which is the normal, and required, manner for entry into the RCC. What I’m sharing with you is FAR more complete and thorough than what you will get there, even in a really good RCIA program, because in GREAT part I no longer have the time restrictions, the course faces. Usually RCIA runs from August {Back to School} to Easter, BUT the Pastor can change that schedule; even though EASTER is the best and most significant time to enter into the True Church of Christ.  … My program is a supplemental to RCIA, {that in my humble opinion; every RCIA member ought to take}.

Christ while on earth Instituted Seven Sacraments: {1} Baptism, {2} Eucharist, {3} Confirmation, {4} Confession /Reconciliation/ Penance, {5} Marriage, {6} Holy Orders, and {7} the Last Rites.

Betsy be SURE that Father Kline and the office {priest are super busy and may forget} is aware that you desire to be in the next RCIA Class. Just get a Sunday bulletin which will have all the contact information you need.

As an aside here: Once you enter into the RCIA program, please continue to ask me questions that may come up.

{A} -“SACRAMENT. A sensible sign, instituted by Jesus Christ, by which invisible grace and inward sanctification are communicated to the soul. The essential elements of a sacrament of the New Law are institution by Christ the God-man during his visible stay on earth, and a sensibly perceptible rite that actually confers the supernatural grace it symbolizes. In a broad sense every external sign of internal divine blessing is a sacrament. And in this sense there were already sacraments in the Old Law, such as the practice of circumcision. But, as the Council of Trent defined, these ancient rites differed essentially from the sacraments of the New Law, they did not really contain the grace they signified, nor was the fullness of grace yet available through visible channels merited and established by the Savior. (Etym. Latin sacramentum, oath, solemn obligation; from sacrare, to set apart as sacred, consecrate.)” From Father Hardon’s Catholic Distionary”. … Father was a Mentor to me

Five of these Sacrament’s hold the potential to accomplice in differing manners and degrees what you ask about.

  1. Sin are forgiven in the manner specified and desired by Christ {God} in each of the following Sacraments:
  2. {1} Which can as a Christian be received only one time. I assume you have been Baptized with water in the names of the Blessed Trinity? Mt. 28: 19-20 “Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.” And John 3:5  If you either have not been Baptized, it will be part of the RCIA Initiation Process. Father will ask you for “proof” of your Baptism and having mom’s testimony will be sufficient. If there are any doubts, you will be “re-baptized” conditionally {on the assumption that you may or many-not have been Baptized previously.

Sacramental Baptism removes BOTH All prior sins as well as ALL of the effects {“Temporal Punishment caused by those sins”}. So that if one should die after Baptism and have committed no further sin; such a Soul, being perfected like Christ can enter directly into heaven and the Beatific Vision.

 {2} Sacramental Confession/ Reconciliation/ Penance {all three terms while having slightly different meanings, apply correctly to this particular Sacrament.

Of all of the bible supported teachings; this is among the most critical, and most significant to one’s Salvation hopes, missed, not understood and wrongly treated by the Protestant community. And how very sad that is. Because Protestants presume a right not granted to them, and therefore not accepted by God** They presume to tell God how “H will” forgive their sins, rather than humbly listening to Christ Himself tell US how He will actually accomplish this task.

Confession” This is the oldest and most common term for this sacrament which too was directly instituted by Christ. John 20:1-23 Now when it was late that same day, the first of the week, and the doors were shut, where the disciples {Apostles} were gathered together, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them: Peace be to you. And when he had said this, he shewed them his hands and his side. The disciples therefore were glad, when they saw the Lord, He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you. {This means exactly what it says here: Christ gives to the Apostles, and through them His Church [singular] his own Godly Powers and Authority: READ Mt, 10:1-8 if in doubt} When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.

Heb.5 Verses 1 to 6  “For every high priest chosen from among men is appointed to act on behalf of men in relation to God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins. He can deal gently with the ignorant and wayward, since he himself is beset with weakness. Because of this he is bound to offer sacrifice for his own sins as well as for those of the people. And one does not take the honor upon himself, but he is called by God, just as Aaron was.”   John.15: 16 “You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide; so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.”

James 5:16 “Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The fervent prayer of a righteous person is very powerful”

Matt.9 : 6 “But that you may know that the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins” — he then said to the paralytic — “Rise, take up your bed and go home.” [8] When the crowds saw it, they were afraid, and they glorified God, who had given such authority to men. “  … See Mt. 10:1-8

Matt.10: 1And he called to him his twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every disease and every infirmity” {both physical and spiritual}

Acts 17: 30 “The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all men everywhere to repent, because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, [Jesus the Christ] and of this he has given assurance to all men by raising him from the dead.”

James 4: 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you men of double mind.” All things have been delivered to me by my Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him”

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 Jn. 1: 9

Mt. 7: 21 “Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.”

“I acknowledged my sin to thee, and I did not hide my iniquity; I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the LORD”; then thou didst forgive the guilt of my sin”. Psalm 32:5

“I confess my iniquity, I am sorry for my sin”. Psalm 38: 18

  • The term “confession” refers precisely to the process that is an absolute need to confess our sins, personally and directly to a Catholic priest who has been chosen by Christ and empowered by Christ, to in HIS NAME, and with God’s own Power’s and Authority , determine IF ones sin ought to be, or ought NOT to be forgiven. It remains Christ who does it; BUT on the condition that the Catholic Priest gives God his permission, as the holder of all of the keys to heaven, granted to him by Christ, to forgive or not to forgive our sins. QUOTE: “When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: John 20:22-23Receive ye the Holy Ghost. [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.

“Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed.” James 5: 16

“Do not be ashamed to confess your sins”, Sir. 4:26

“When a man is guilty in any of these, he shall confess the sin he has committed” Lev. 5:5

he shall confess his sin which he has committed; and he shall make full restitution for his wrong Num. 5:7

“And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? One there is who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.” Mt. 19: 17

Jn 20: 21-23 “Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.

Heb. 3: 1Therefore, holy brethren, who share in a heavenly call, consider Jesus, the apostle and high priest of our confession”

Mt. 16:19  DIRECT QUOTE: I will give you {Alone ALL } the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

The term “reconciliation” describes the effects and benefit of this Sacrament. Man is reconciled with our God; our sins ARE forgiven and forgotten by God through his Catholic priest, so this then is the “KNOWN & ASSURED” way AND MANNER  to inner peace given by God to men who actually hear and then OBEY HIM. It is HIGHLY significant that in this teaching: John 20:19-23, that Christ tells us TWICE to be peaceful and assured: “Now when it was late that same day, the first of the week, and the doors were shut, where the disciples were gathered together, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them: Peace be to you[20] And when he had said this, he shewed them his hands and his side. The disciples therefore were glad, when they saw the Lord.[21] He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you. [22] When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain; they are retained.Jesus Christ does not mince his wrd; His intent, His ONLY Teaching on this issue critical to everyone salvation.**

  • ** The Church, the Portal, and the ONLY portal of all salvation, as “all salvation mysteriously must and does flow through Her”; holds out the possibility of salvation outside her DIRECT embrace, to those who though NO FAULT {culpability} of their won, do not [or are not granted], the knowledge of Christ One Church and the absolute need to be joined to Her; the Catechism of the Catholic Church #’s 846 & 847; might yet conditionally attain their Salvation.
  • The term “Penance” makes reference to penalty imposed by the priest in Confession to make us aware of the damage we have done to our souls, our relationship with God, to the Church and to society as a whole, as all sins have a “public nature” that affects others besides ourselves.


In current times this is often very slight, and minimal, but sufficient to act as a reminder, once the priest is assured that we are truly repentant of our sinful actions.

 There is a “SEAL” of Confession that a priest may not under ANY circumstances, threats or promised rewards, reveal what is shared in the Confessional, without putting his own soul at GRAVE risk of eternal damnation. So serious is this that ONLY the Pope can personally override this; and I don’t think in the 2,000 year history of the Church that it has ever been done!

 While this sacrament DOES fully and exclusively remit ALL sins, it does not remove the “Temporal Punishment} caused by All son; attached to all sinful acts.

  • This “Temporal Punishment” must then be repaid before one can enter into the Beatific Vision {Christ actual Presence}. This can be accomplished even after death; so long as the Soul DOES die in the “State of God’s Grace.” Meaning without the stain of unconfessed; and, or, unforgiven Mortal sin. John 5: 16-17
  • “Temporal Punishment due to sin” is judged ONLY and directly by Christ Himself, who alone knows the amount of the debt, and to what degree He accepts payment thereof. So it is Christ alone who is the “bookkeeper” of this reality which nevertheless must absolutely be repaid to make the Soul Perfect; the necessity Christ sets to permit any Soul into His Divine and Perfect Presence.   

Lev.22: 21 “And when any one offers a sacrifice of peace offerings to the LORD, to fulfill a vow or as a freewill offering, from the herd or from the flock, to be accepted it must be perfect; there shall be no blemish in it. … Rev. 21: 27 “But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor anyone who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s book of life.”  … Mt. 5: 26 truly, I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny.  … Matt.5: 48 “You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” … Heb. 2: 10 For it was fitting that he, for whom and by whom all things exist, in bringing many sons to glory, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through suffering.”

The Church, holder of “all the key’s to heaven” is given the authority to make Temporal Punishment repayable while on earth through good works, charity, suffering offered up to God and Indulgences, which is a separate topic.

  1. {3} Eucharist/ the Real Presence

       This too is a significant LOSS to the Protestant communities. The Dogma od the Real Presence, meaning that Jesus Christ in Person, is “truly, Really and Substanually present in Catholic Holy Communion [Also the Orthodox who have Direct Apostolic Succession, and all Seven Sacraments Validly; but NOT Licitly], are empowered by Christ and the Holy Spirit, to make Jesus Himself Present to us. This reality is testified to by Christ Personally and FIVE different authors of the New Testament: Mt.

Matthew 26: 26-28 “And whilst they were at supper, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke: and gave to his disciples, and said: Take ye, and eat. This is my body. And taking the chalice, he gave thanks, and gave to them, saying: Drink ye all of this. For this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many unto remission of sins.”

MARK 14: 22-24 “And whilst they were eating, Jesus took bread; and blessing, broke, and gave to them, and said: Take ye. This is my body. And having taken the chalice, giving thanks, he gave it to them. And they all drank of it.  And he said to them: This is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many.}

Luke 22: 19-21 And taking bread, he gave thanks, and brake; and gave to them, saying: This is my body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of me. In like manner the chalice also, after he had supped, saying: This is the chalice, the new testament in my blood, which shall be shed for you.”

Paul 1 Cor.11: 23-29 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus, the same night in which he was betrayed, took bread.  And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me. In like manner also the chalice, after he had supped, saying: This chalice is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as often as you shall drink, for the commemoration of me.  For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall show the death of the Lord, until he come. Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. But let a man prove himself: [to be worthy of the privilege]  and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. For he that eats and drinks unworthily, eats and drinks judgment to himself

John from Chapter 6: 47-57 Amen, amen I say unto you: He that believeth in me, hath everlasting life. I am the bread of life.  I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat? Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. He that eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed. He that eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, abides in me, and I in him.”

So it is really the denial of God Himself in person that is denied. That is not only a indescribable; discernable loss;  but puts there very Souls at risk.

This Gift of Christ Himself is:

FROM God the Father

Of God the Son

By God the Holy Spirit

And is the greatest of all possible protections against us sinning.

  1. {4} “Marriage” and or “Holy Orders {the Catholic Priesthood} Depending on on’s Vocational call

If one is called by God to either of these vocations; God grants extra and special graces along with them to better enable one to live that vocation fully in accord with God’s expectations of that call. Additionally, special graces are offered to permit those to avoid and resist the always present temptation to sin. Especially those temptations associated with that vocation. Sin is always a freewill choice of man.

  1. {5} “The Last rites

Just as entry into the Only Faith and Church that is FULLY “God approved, guided and protected {Mt.16:15-19, John 17:11-26, Mt. 28: 16-20}; is given a means of necessary perfection, if one is to enter immediately upon death, into the intimate Union with Christ through the Beatific Vision; so too Christ and His Church, OFFER a means to leave this world, fully perfected and ready for heave for all eternity.  God’s Love and Mercy {the very reasons the Sacraments were instituted by Christ}, through this Sacrament of final anointing

James 5:14-15 “Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the priests of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. [15] And the prayer of faith shall save the sick man: and the Lord shall raise him up: and if he be in sins, they shall be forgiven him.”

James 1:16-26 “[16] Do not err, therefore, my dearest brethren. [17] Every best gift, and every perfect gift, is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of alteration[18] For of his own will hath he begotten us by the word of truth, that we might besome beginning of his creatures[19] You know, my dearest brethren. And let every man be swift to hear, but slow to speak, and slow to anger[20] For the anger of man worketh not the justice of God. [21] Wherefore casting away all uncleanness, and abundance of naughtiness, with meekness receive the ingrafted word, which is able to save your souls. [22] But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves[23] For if a man be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he shall be compared to a man beholding his own countenance in a glass. [24] For he beheld himself, and went his way, and presently forgot what manner of man he was. [25] But he that hath looked into the perfect law of liberty, and hath continued therein, not becoming a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work; this man shall be blessed in his deed.

[26] And if any man think himself to be religious, not bridling his tongue, but deceiving his own heart, this man’ s religion is vain[27] Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one’ s self unspotted from this world.”

James 2:24, 26 Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?  For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead.”

What God was able to do “Justly and Fairly” in the Old Testament, can is no longer applicable to these New Covenant, New Testament times now under GRACE, {Romans 6:15} not only Law. Because God has given us SO very much more; He MUST expect more from us.

 Things like the “Sinners Prayer” and “Altar calls”, OSAS are all mortal men and quite recent innovations; NONE of which are God approved for sin forgiveness and hold are truly the possibility of ones’ salvation. Man CANNOT tell God how Hw will save them. Man MUST in humility listen and hear, and then ACCEPT and Do what God Commands. Amen.

 God Bless you,


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