“Thanks. But a REAL disturbing question I really want to ask is. How would a growing Catholic respond to this verse. “Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth” (

I Timothy 4:1-3) If a Protestant asks this and says the Catholic Church stopped its faith a long time ago. How would you respond. And how would you respond to the abstain from food and marriage thing? Thanks.”

MY REPLY

That my friend is a great Question. Thanks for asking.

 It is both a biblical and a moral impossibility for the CC to teach is error; on any and all matters of Faith believes and Moral issues. For this to take place God would have to be a liar, and the bible would have to be in error.

The rumor that somehow, someplace and sometime ALL unidentified, by the way; that the CC has lost the faith is but a slanderous myth, or perhaps for the uniformed; simply repeating evil gossip.

Here’s WHY:

Matthew 16: 15-19 “ Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God. [17] And Jesus answering, said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. [18] And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; andupon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.”

So this passage alone refutes there claim; made BTW, because unless they are able to defame the CC, they simply CANNOT justify their own church’s existence. NOT one time in the entirety of the bible can one point to even one time where God was “OK” with a competing faith. NOT ONE TIME!

John 14: 26 “But the Paraclete, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you”

John 17: 12-26 “While I was with them, I kept them in thy name. Those whom thou gavest me have I kept; and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition, that the scripture may be fulfilled. [13] And now I come to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they may have my joy filled in themselves. [14] I have given them thy word, and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world; as I also am not of the world. [15] I pray not that thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that thou shouldst keep them from evil.

[16] They are not of the world, as I also am not of the world. [17] Sanctify them in truth. Thy word is truth. [18] As thou hast sent me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. [19] And for them do I sanctify myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth. [20] And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me;

[21] That they all may be one, as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee; that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. [22] And the glory which thou hast given me, I have given to them; that they may be one, as we also are one[23] I in them, and thou in me; that they may be made perfect in one: and the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast also loved me. [24] Father, I will that where I am, they also whom thou hast given me may be with me; that they may see my glory which thou hast given me, because thou hast loved me before the creation of the world. [25] Just Father, the world hath not known thee; but I have known thee: and these have known that thou hast sent me. [26] And I have made known thy name to them, and will make it known; that the love wherewith thou hast loved me, may be in them, and I in them.”

So here we find Christ

  1. Actually giving to the Apostles and to their Successors His OWN very Powers and authority. {Verse 18}
  2. Because God cannot deny His Very Self; verse 15 assure that they Will TEACH IN TRUTH.
  3. In verse #19, we find Christ GIVING HIMSELF AS A PERSONAL WARRATNTY OF THE CHURCH LITERALLY BEING UNABLE TO TEACH ANYTHING BUT HIS TRUTH… no other faith or church can make that claim.

 And as a final evidence we look at Matthew 28: 16-20

“And the eleven disciples went into Galilee, unto the mountain where Jesus had appointed them.[17] And seeing him they adored: but some doubted. [18] And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying:All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. [19] Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.”

Verse 16 makes evident that Christ is 1. Speaking directly to His Apostles 2. And has changed their MANDATE from “only the Jews in Mt. 10: 1-8”; to the ENTIRE WORLD, thus mandating Succession of authority and teaching.

Verse 18 is repeating that Christ intended and DID pass His own authority and Godly Powers to His CC.

Verse 20 indicates that it is to the CC ALONE that God Commands to teach His faith and that He WILL BE WITH THEM FOREVER! Amen!

“Forbidding” them to marry is too a LIE! WHY?

This is a “church practice” NOT a LAW that is unchangeable.

Priest and Bishops in the early Church; Saint Peter INCLUDED were married.

1st. Tim. 3: 1- 5 “[1] A faithful saying: if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. [2] It behoveth therefore a bishop to be blameless, the husband of one wife, sober, prudent, of good behaviour, chaste, given to hospitality, a teacher, [3] Not given to wine, no striker, but modest, not quarrelsome, not covetous, but [4] One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all chastity. [5] But if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?”

The decision to now ALLOW priest or Bishops NOT to Marry came over time BASED ON EXPERIENCE. It became EVIDENT that a man with the responsibilities of a wife and children was not free to devote ALL of His Time and Energy to God. So the Rule of celibacy was invokes. BUT this is a KNOWN FACT LONG before Ordination, and NEVER has the Church FORCED a man to become a priest. It’s a FREEWILL CHOICE, so in the sense of the accusation, it’s a lie.

I haven’t the slightest idea by what you mean by “food.” There are NO forbidden foods. There ARE times of FAST and Abstainence, primarily in the Season of LENT, before Easter, to prepare our minds, hearts and Souls for the Ressurrection.

Here/s my e-mail if you’d care to contact me?

Patrickmiron66@hotmail.com  

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